Limb strategy
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Nov 12, 2010 at 10:22 pm |
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Re artificial limbs: Check this page, it details who is associated with what as far as limb materials go (notable exceptions are Valpurus and Mortifer - do not pray to them expecting something as trifling as granting you a new limb for they shall smite your head off if you do). The best way to handle a subpar limb is to either spend a scroll of harden material to make it better, a scroll of change material to bring it up to par from weaksauce (in the event hardening won't work for your intended purposes), or to skip hoping the "right" material is gained from praying and try to keep your limbs whenever possible until such time as you can get what you want through pure braininess. SoCM is probably the best to go from human to awesome artificial because it is a) reliable and b) a drastic enough use of resources that you'll hopefully have thought it through before making use of it, with SoHM coming in second as a substitute (nice because it requires 5 int less than trying to use an SoCM directly and also is slightly more plentiful) and praying coming in dead last because as the link should make clear gods are associated with multiple materials and so quality is not guaranteed. As for your other question? It's really the bottom stack which is the mirror. The top stack is the real one. | ||
Nov 13, 2010 at 12:50 am |
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Thanks, this information helps me a lot. What about an extreme case, though, like if I had, say, 4 amethyst limbs? | ||
Nov 13, 2010 at 2:39 am |
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Having all your limbs amethyst really causes more problems than it's worth. For one, because of the extreme lack of flexibility your DEX and AGI will be horribly low, whilst your LStr and AStr will be very high, as well as limb health. The problem is this: you will have a very low chance of dodging let alone landing a blow (although should you do so it will be devastating!), and although your limbs will be able to survive many hits it is important to remember that your other body parts cannot be changed. That means that all your vital body parts remain with very little HP, and if you remember that your torso takes the most damage on average, that means that not being able to dodge an attack will lead to a quick death. My strategy for artificial limbs is this: Should you encounter a SoCM and want to use it for changing a limb, generally the best materials to choose from are from the cloth/leather branch. This would be, in order of scroll of harden material ranks: Leather, [Nymph Hair], Hardened Leather, Troll Hide, Ommel Hair, Phoenix Feather, Dragon Hide. The best over all is Golden Eagle Feather, but that cannot be obtained through harden material scrolls. Note that as you go up the ranks each requires a higher INT to harden. My advice to you is that if you should encounter a SoCM very early in the game (e.g. in the underwater tunnel) the first material you should transform your limb into is troll hide, and then later harden it to ommel hair which is only difficult if you didn't start with 10 INT or more. From there you need to read, pray and science talk to boost your INT to 20 in order to harder your limb(s) to Phoenix Feather. Phoenix Feather is very strong in both strength and speed, for example in one run through the game I had a character with two Phoenix Feather arms and he plowed through everything that came at him (including the shop guards and shop keeper in the gloomy cave AND most of the dwarven city populous in LIVAN) but was finally taken down by a couple of veteran kamikaze dwarves. And that is the final danger of artificial limbs: They raise the danger level to the point that very strong monsters will come at you earlier than they would normally, and you are likely not to have good enough equipment to withstand them. So it is important to monitor your equipment and adjust your limbs accordingly. In short, if you are still wearing iron boots and an ommel hair armor piece, don't go power hungry and turn your limbs to dragon hide. | ||
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Nov 13, 2010 at 5:17 pm |
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4zb4, his question was what to do if he wound up with 4 amethyst limbs and not whether amethyst limbs were good or not. Answer: Don't end up with 4 amethyst limbs, seriously. Heal yourself before your human limbs get lopped off, go to the healer in NA to replace your lost limbs, or at least pray to gods who will get you on the right material track. Prevention is the best medicine here. If you are stuck with them on a decent game, though? You're pretty screwed because a) no, there is no better safe option for changing your limbs than SoCM (or HM if you want to try emulating the UT4 golems) and b) there is no safe way to get your limbs destroyed, even if they are crazy weak (amethyst definitely doesn't fit this category), since there is no way to ensure your head is not harmed (mines, enemies, and I think even bear traps can lop it), nor that you won't simply take too much of a beating while waiting for your limbs to be targeted to keep going. If you have an amulet of lifesaving, you could try blowing yourself up with a mine or something but there are no guarantees that you won't fuck that up too (since if your head is lopped before you die, the amulet will fall off and fail to save your life). That said, if you get any of your artificial limbs hacked off and drink some healing fluid or troll blood, you can get your human limbs back (max of one or two back per bottle, but loads better than none). | ||
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Dec 6, 2010 at 2:30 pm |
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Oh... also, being all shiny golden coloured is pretty badass. ![]() | ||
Dec 6, 2010 at 2:40 pm |
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Okay, so then strength is average, Agi/Dex is total. That will make it easier to see what I want to play with. ![]() | ||
Dec 6, 2010 at 2:42 pm |
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I guess you can't have limbs made out of liquid. | ||
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