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Dec 1, 2009 at 12:10 am |
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Joined: Dec 3, 2007 Occupation: Standing between all life and death. Location: Earth. Interests: One among my many and varied interests? Chiquita Kamikaze. Posts: 1593
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I think Slob would disagree. Higher WIS means you can safely juggle a higher number of gods, if I've got that right. |
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Dec 1, 2009 at 3:45 am |
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Joined: Nov 29, 2009 Posts: 39
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Ah that you mentioned about gods and praying... what interval should i pray on ? so that they won't get angry ? and how do you become a champion of a god? and what does your alignment do ? |
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Dec 1, 2009 at 4:37 am |
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 Ex-Tyrant of the IVANers
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Joined: Dec 8, 2007 Occupation: Bongsniffer.png Location: Lounging in the bowl Interests: Bitchtits.png Posts: 1795
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You have to get 1000 (I believe) piety points with a god to become their champion; however, this only matters with Mortifer and Valpurus, as they will hurt you if you pray to them without being their champion.
As far as when to pray, you should do it roughly once every 3 game-hours. To make it safe you may want to go a little longer, do it once every 4. Praying never makes you lose piety unless you get a negative god effect, in which case the prayer time-out counter is a LOT longer. Also, praying early will cost you piety and will give you a long prayer timeout. I'm not sure exactly how long but I'd advice waiting a day or two before praying again in either case.
As far as alignment... I'm not sure. It's certainly tied to which gods you pray/sacrifice to, I'm not sure if anything else contributes to it. I don't know about it's ingame effects. Certain weapons will also draw your alignment towards chaotic -- Neerc se'Ulb, and I believe Mjolak. This will have an adverse effect on your standing with lawful gods. |
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Dec 3, 2009 at 2:36 am |
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 elder dark mage
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Joined: Dec 11, 2008 Posts: 554
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Ischaldirh wrote  You have to get 1000 (I believe) diety points with a god to become their champion; however, this only matters with Mortifer and Valpurus, as they will hurt you if you pray to them without being their champion.
Don't forget Atavus too, minus the hurting part. |
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My IVAN Dream:
You grab Petrus the High Priest of the Great Frog!
You deliver a crippling piledriver to Petrus the High Priest of the Great Frog!
His head is severed off! | | |
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Dec 3, 2009 at 4:38 am |
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 He Who Scars
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Joined: Dec 4, 2007 Occupation: Driver for hire Location: Buff the Roadbuster Interests: Buff the Roadbuster Posts: 611
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That's not entirely true, he replaces limbs IIRC. |
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Dec 3, 2009 at 5:16 am |
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 Ex-Tyrant of the IVANers
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Joined: Dec 8, 2007 Occupation: Bongsniffer.png Location: Lounging in the bowl Interests: Bitchtits.png Posts: 1795
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Atavus' arcanite plate mail is actually available starting at only 500 piety. Higher piety increases the likelyhood that he'll give it to you when you pray though. |
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Dec 3, 2009 at 10:51 am |
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Joined: Nov 29, 2009 Posts: 39
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Ah, another question, how do you put banana lumps into bana cans? i heard its a better way to conserve them. And what should i do with empty bottles? what do they do ? (i guess filling, but with what, and how) |
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Dec 3, 2009 at 11:00 am |
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 elder dark mage
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Joined: Jan 25, 2008 Occupation: Turns out I can't have a cool avatar, I'll just put crap in it. Location: 48kg / 105 lbs Interests: My name is Failbert Posts: 531
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Using the 'dip' command ('!' key) You can for example make two "half-full" bottles of healing liquid by dipping a bottle of healing liquid in an empty bottle. Before late game, You don't need the full, 1150g, ones anyway, and drinking a 650g one will result in a full heal anyway.
Praying to Mellis may help You make use of the empty bottles, too  |
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Well I assume that a bolt has a given, numeric, amouunt of perwer. (assi in enegri)... unless it's LAERSER SKISKLS POEWN PEWN! | | |
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Dec 3, 2009 at 11:44 am |
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Joined: Jan 11, 2008 Posts: 681
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Personally, I find cans of healing fluid rather nicer. |
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Dec 3, 2009 at 11:49 am |
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Joined: Nov 29, 2009 Posts: 39
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yes but how can i conserve food from rotting ? |
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Dec 3, 2009 at 2:06 pm |
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 Ex-Tyrant of the IVANers
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Joined: Dec 8, 2007 Occupation: Bongsniffer.png Location: Lounging in the bowl Interests: Bitchtits.png Posts: 1795
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You can't
EDIT: Well, not entirely true. You can't can foods, though praying to Mellis can fill up to 5 empty cans with random foodstuffs. However you can also zap rottable items with a wand of slow, which causes them to rot much more slowly. (You can also zap them with a wand of haste, if you want them to rot away really fast.) |
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Dec 3, 2009 at 3:54 pm |
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Joined: Nov 29, 2009 Posts: 39
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Can't i just zap foods that didn't yet start rotting ? why should i wait them to rot first?
And another questions is... if i pray to chaotic gods, does that reduce the favor for good gods? and how do neutral gods stand ? (i guess it has something to do with your alignment)
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what does the whistle do ? |
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Dec 3, 2009 at 8:12 pm |
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 He Who Scars
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Joined: Dec 4, 2007 Occupation: Driver for hire Location: Buff the Roadbuster Interests: Buff the Roadbuster Posts: 611
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Yes, he meant that zapping the food slows the rotting process, it doesn't matter how rotted it is before you zap it.
Yes, praying to one god reduces favor for all gods in a certain range based on your wisdom, I believe, neutral or not.
The whistle calls your pets to your side, the magical whistle teleports all of your pets to your side. |
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Dec 4, 2009 at 3:48 am |
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 Ex-Tyrant of the IVANers
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Joined: Dec 8, 2007 Occupation: Bongsniffer.png Location: Lounging in the bowl Interests: Bitchtits.png Posts: 1795
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As a general rule of thumb: Praying to any given god increases favor for that god, increases favor for the gods just above and below alignment wise a little less, increases favor for the gods one past that a lot less, does nothing for the gods one past THAT, and knocks your favor with all the rest. For example:
I pray to Loricatus (N=). I gain, say, 10 favor with him (these numbers are coming straight out of my ass, btw). I also gain 6 favor with Silva (N+) and Mellis (N-), and 3 favor with Sophos (L-) and Cleptia (C+). Nothing happens to my favor with Seges, Dulcis (both L), Nefas, or Scabies (both C). I lose favor with all the rest of the gods.
Now I may be wrong on the range here; praying to a god may only increase for one alignment range, do nothing, for two, and cost you for the rest. But I think that's about right. I know it's reasonably viable to pray to up to a 5 alignment range worth of gods, as long as you do them all at the same time and are careful not to anger any of them.
That's another thing, this is all assuming your prayer doesn't result in an anger effect. I have no idea how that would influence favor. |
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Dec 4, 2009 at 7:54 am |
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 The Imperialist
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Joined: Dec 2, 2007 Location: New Attnam Interests: bananas Posts: 999
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Question about the whistle: Is there a limited range the whistle has where pets can hear it, or a % chance that it won't work, or anything like that? |
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Dec 4, 2009 at 2:11 pm |
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Joined: Nov 29, 2009 Posts: 39
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Because i personaly find the whistle freakin usefull, cuz my buddies allways get lost on the way, or teleported away from a blue dragon, and it's annoying to run arround the dungeon searching for them while starving myself to death...
Oh and what does the nuts do? i once found oone, ate it, and then it said that i've did a bad deed... |
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Dec 4, 2009 at 11:47 pm |
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Joined: Dec 3, 2007 Occupation: Big Daddy Location: under the sheets with my sweety Interests: Baby-makin' Posts: 549
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you ate testicles!
nut as in Petrus' left nut, testes, balls, cahones, gonads, prairie oysters, juevos, family jewels. Eating human flesh is an evil deed. Apparently dwarves aren;t human so feel free to pick up a Kamikaze dwarf head for lunch after he assplodes himself next to you |
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Dec 5, 2009 at 10:21 am |
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Joined: Nov 29, 2009 Posts: 39
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A..... right.
So what do you do with them? except eating and looking like an ass on the forums? |
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Dec 5, 2009 at 10:56 am |
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 Master mine stomper
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Joined: Dec 16, 2007 Occupation: Agitating rain Location: HQ of the Operation: Invade Erno's house Interests: Sherarax Posts: 1132
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xD Rusty, that's the best one for a while... I think you need Petrus' left nut for one of the chaotic victories. |
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Dec 5, 2009 at 3:40 pm |
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 Ex-Tyrant of the IVANers
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Joined: Dec 8, 2007 Occupation: Bongsniffer.png Location: Lounging in the bowl Interests: Bitchtits.png Posts: 1795
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The actual left nut, not a copy. |
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Dec 6, 2009 at 4:42 am |
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 orc general
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Joined: Nov 22, 2008 Interests: IVAN Posts: 461
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Expensive copies are worth a lot if you sell them, but are as far as I know useless otherwise. |
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Beware! 'tis EagleV, Hardcore Weaver of Baskets! | | |
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Dec 7, 2009 at 12:48 pm |
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Joined: Mar 26, 2009 Posts: 18
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Eagle V wrote  Expensive copies are worth a lot if you sell them, but are as far as I know useless otherwise.
You can offer them to Mellis which will be appreciated greatly  |
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Dec 9, 2009 at 4:07 pm |
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Joined: Nov 29, 2009 Posts: 39
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Question: i am playing Livian, and noticed that it has another attribute called Wil, whats that? i guess it's willpower?, what does it do ? |
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Dec 9, 2009 at 6:42 pm |
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 He Who Scars
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Joined: Dec 4, 2007 Occupation: Driver for hire Location: Buff the Roadbuster Interests: Buff the Roadbuster Posts: 611
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At the moment, nothing. |
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Dec 9, 2009 at 11:47 pm |
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 The Imperialist
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Joined: Dec 2, 2007 Location: New Attnam Interests: bananas Posts: 999
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Yes Wil is Willpower, it was added in CVS wasn't it? |
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