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 Oct 4, 2008 at 4:25 am |
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Weapons Comparisons valpurium dagger +16 [150g, DAM 14-25, unbelievably accurate, almost unbreakable] Can wield at 1 ASTR adamantine dagger +16 [500g, DAM 15-26, unbelievably accurate, almost unbreakable] Can wield at 1 ASTR valpurium sickle +16 [325g, DAM 15-26, unbelievably accurate, almost unbreakable] Can wield at 1 ASTR adamantine sickle +16 [1025g, DAM 16-28, unbelievably accurate, almost unbreakable] Can wield at 1 ASTR valpurium short sword +16 [300g, DAM 15-27, unbelievably accurate, almost unbreakable] Can wield at 1 ASTR adamantine short sword +16 [1000g, DAM 16-28, unbelievably accurate, almost unbreakable] Can wield at 1 ASTR valpurium long sword +16 [525g, DAM 16-28, unbelievably accurate, almost unbreakable] Can wield at 1 ASTR adamantine long sword +16 [1750g, DAM 17-30, unbelievably accurate, almost unbreakable] Can wield at 6 ASTR valpurium bastard sword +16 [975g, DAM 17-30, unbelievably accurate, almost unbreakable] Can 2-hand at 1 ASTR, 1-hand at 3 ASTR adamantine bastard sword +16 [3250g, DAM 19-33, unbelievably accurate, almost unbreakable] Can 2-hand at 3 ASTR, 1-hand at 23 ASTR valpurium two-handed sword +16 [1500g, DAM 19-32, unbelievably accurate, almost unbreakable] Can 2-hand at 1 ASTR, 1-hand at 7 ASTR adamantine two-handed sword +16 [5000g, DAM 20-35, extremely accurate, almost unbreakable] Can 2-hand at 9 ASTR, 1-hand at 71 ASTR valpurium two-handed scimitar +16 [1650g, DAM 19-34, unbelievably accurate, almost unbreakable] Can 2-hand at 1 ASTR, 1-hand at 7 ASTR adamantine two-handed scimitar +16 [5500g, DAM 21-37, extremely accurate, almost unbreakable] Can 2-hand at 10 ASTR, 1-hand at 75 ASTR valpurium hammer +16 [600g, DAM 15-26, unbelievably accurate, almost unbreakable] Can wield at 1 ASTR adamantine hammer +16 [1650g, DAM 16-28, unbelievably accurate, almost unbreakable] Can wield at 1 ASTR valpurium war hammer +16 [1000g, DAM 16-27, unbelievably accurate, almost unbreakable] Can 2-hand at 1 ASTR, 1-hand at 1 ASTR adamantine war hammer +16 [2750g, DAM 17-29, unbelievably accurate, almost unbreakable] Can 2-hand at 1 ASTR, 1-hand at 4 ASTR valpurium mace +16 [1150g, DAM 17-29, unbelievably accurate, almost unbreakable] Can 2-hand at 1 ASTR, 1-hand at 1 ASTR adamantine mace +16 [3250g, DAM 18-31, unbelievably accurate, almost unbreakable] Can 2-hand at 1 ASTR, 1-hand at 7 ASTR octiron quarterstaff +16 [2880g, DAM 18-31, unbelievably accurate, almost unbreakable] Can 2-hand at 7 ASTR, 1-hand at 51 ASTR valpurium quarterstaff +16 [9600g, DAM 21-37, extremely accurate, almost unbreakable] Can 2-hand at 70 ASTR, 1-hand at 558 ASTR adamantine quarterstaff +16 [32000g, DAM 24-41, extremely accurate, almost unbreakable] Can 2-hand at 775 ASTR, 1-hand at 6196 ASTR valpurium pick-axe +16 [875g, DAM 15-26, unbelievably accurate, almost unbreakable] Can 2-hand at 1 ASTR, 1-hand at 1 ASTR adamantine pick-axe +16 [2450g, DAM 16-27, unbelievably accurate, almost unbreakable] Can 2-hand at 1 ASTR, 1-hand at 5 ASTR valpurium axe +16 [800g, DAM 16-27, unbelievably accurate, almost unbreakable] Can 2-hand at 1 ASTR, 1-hand at 1 ASTR adamantine axe +16 [2200g, DAM 17-29, unbelievably accurate, almost unbreakable] Can 2-hand at 1 ASTR, 1-hand at 3 ASTR valpurium battle-axe +16 [1100g, DAM 17-29, unbelievably accurate, almost unbreakable] Can 2-hand at 1 ASTR, 1-hand at 2 ASTR adamantine battle-axe +16 [2850g, DAM 18-31, unbelievably accurate, almost unbreakable] Can 2-hand at 2 ASTR, 1-hand at 13 ASTR valpurium spear +16 [1300g, DAM 16-27, unbelievably accurate, almost unbreakable] Can 2-hand at 1 ASTR, 1-hand at 8 ASTR adamantine spear +16 [2000g, DAM 17-29, unbelievably accurate, almost unbreakable] Can 2-hand at 3 ASTR, 1-hand at 19 ASTR valpurium scythe +16 [1350g, DAM 16-28, unbelievably accurate, almost unbreakable] Can 2-hand at 2 ASTR, 1-hand at 10 ASTR adamantine scythe +16 [2400g, DAM 17-30, unbelievably accurate, almost unbreakable] Can 2-hand at 4 ASTR, 1-hand at 29 ASTR valpurium halberd +16 [2025g, DAM 18-31, unbelievably accurate, almost unbreakable] Can 2-hand at 2 ASTR, 1-hand at 15 ASTR adamantine halberd +16 [4650g, DAM 20-34, extremely accurate, almost unbreakable] Can 2-hand at 10 ASTR, 1-hand at 79 ASTR golden eagle feather whip +16 [70g, DAM 15-27, unbelievably accurate] Can wield at 1 ASTR valpurium whip +16 [1520g, DAM 16-27, unbelievably accurate] Can wield at 13 ASTR runed golden eagle feather whip +16 [125g, DAM 18-31, unbelievably accurate] Can wield at 1 ASTR runed valpurium whip +16 [2300g, DAM 18-31, unbelievably accurate] Can wield at 35 ASTR valpurium dagger of venom +16 [150g, DAM 14-25, unbelievably accurate, almost unbreakable] Can wield at 1 ASTR adamantine dagger of venom +16 [500g, DAM 15-26, unbelievably accurate, almost unbreakable] Can wield at 1 ASTR weeping valpurium blade +16 [300g, DAM 15-27, unbelievably accurate, almost unbreakable] Can wield at 1 ASTR weeping adamantine blade +16 [1000g, DAM 16-28, unbelievably accurate, almost unbreakable] Can wield at 1 ASTR flaming valpurium sword +16 [525g, DAM 16-29, unbelievably accurate, almost unbreakable] Can wield at 1 ASTR flaming adamantine sword +16 [1750g, DAM 18-31, unbelievably accurate, almost unbreakable] Can wield at 6 ASTR valpurium thunder hammer +16 [700g, DAM 17-30, unbelievably accurate, almost unbreakable] Can 2-hand at 1 ASTR, 1-hand at 1 ASTR adamantine thunder hammer +16 [2100g, DAM 18-32, unbelievably accurate, almost unbreakable] Can 2-hand at 1 ASTR, 1-hand at 2 ASTR octiron staff of wondrous smells +16 [2600g, DAM 18-31, unbelievably accurate, almost unbreakable] Can 2-hand at 6 ASTR, 1-hand at 41 ASTR valpurium staff of wondrous smells +16 [6800g, DAM 22-38, extremely accurate, almost unbreakable] Can 2-hand at 35 ASTR, 1-hand at 280 ASTR adamantine staff of wondrous smells +16 [20800g, DAM 25-42, extremely accurate, almost unbreakable] Can 2-hand at 328 ASTR, 1-hand at 2618 ASTR golden eagle feather whip of thievery +16 [300g, DAM 19-34, unbelievably accurate] Can wield at 1 ASTR valpurium whip of thievery +16 [3200g, DAM 20-35, unbelievably accurate] Can wield at 81 ASTR golden eagle feather chameleon whip +16 [300g, DAM 19-34, unbelievably accurate] Can wield at 1 ASTR valpurium chameleon whip +16 [3200g, DAM 20-35, unbelievably accurate] Can wield at 81 ASTR Gorovits family valpurium hammer +16 [1200g, DAM 18-31, unbelievably accurate, almost unbreakable] Can 2-hand at 1 ASTR, 1-hand at 2 ASTR Gorovits family adamantine hammer +16 [3300g, DAM 20-34, unbelievably accurate, almost unbreakable] Can 2-hand at 2 ASTR, 1-hand at 12 ASTR Gorovits family valpurium sickle +16 [400g, DAM 16-29, unbelievably accurate, almost unbreakable] Can wield at 1 ASTR Gorovits family adamantine sickle +16 [1275g, DAM 18-31, unbelievably accurate, almost unbreakable] Can wield at 1 ASTR Gorovits family valpurium scimitar +16 [1800g, DAM 20-34, unbelievably accurate, almost unbreakable] Can 2-hand at 2 ASTR, 1-hand at 10 ASTR Gorovits family adamantine scimitar +16 [6000g, DAM 22-38, extremely accurate, almost unbreakable] Can 2-hand at 13 ASTR, 1-hand at 102 ASTR short valpurium sword named Saal'thul +16 [240g, DAM 17-30, unbelievably accurate, almost unbreakable] Can wield at 1 ASTR short adamantine sword named Saal'thul +16 [800g, DAM 18-32, unbelievably accurate, almost unbreakable] Can wield at 1 ASTR runed valpurium spear named Vermis +16 [880g, DAM 18-32, unbelievably accurate, almost unbreakable] Can 2-hand at 1 ASTR, 1-hand at 5 ASTR runed adamantine spear named Vermis +16 [1300g, DAM 20-35, unbelievably accurate, almost unbreakable] Can 2-hand at 2 ASTR, 1-hand at 11 ASTR unholy valpurium halberd named Mjolak +16 [2200g, DAM 21-36, unbelievably accurate, almost unbreakable] Can 2-hand at 3 ASTR, 1-hand at 20 ASTR unholy adamantine halberd named Mjolak +16 [5000g, DAM 23-40, extremely accurate, almost unbreakable] Can 2-hand at 13 ASTR, 1-hand at 102 ASTR valpurium mace named Turox +16 [1650g, DAM 21-37, unbelievably accurate, almost unbreakable] Can 2-hand at 1 ASTR, 1-hand at 3 ASTR adamantine mace named Turox +16 [4800g, DAM 24-41, extremely accurate, almost unbreakable] Can 2-hand at 3 ASTR, 1-hand at 24 ASTR ancient mace named Neerc Se-ulb +16 [5000g, DAM 20-34, extremely accurate, almost unbreakable] Can 2-hand at 4 ASTR, 1-hand at 32 ASTR holy broadsword named Valpurus's Justifier +16 [900g, DAM 20-35, unbelievably accurate, almost unbreakable] Can wield at 2 ASTR | ||
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Oct 4, 2008 at 6:38 am |
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The whips should be GEF to be useful. | ||
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Oct 5, 2008 at 11:02 am |
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| Mage Prophet |
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I only recalled from the previous incarnation that valpurium was the most damaging for whips, it wasn't not until I tested ASTR requirements this time 'round that I realised how useful it was. GEF whips added, and, since the ridiculous valpurium whips are up there, I've put the adamantine staves in too  | ||
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Oct 5, 2008 at 6:24 pm |
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elder dark mage |
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My favourite weapons combo is Justifier + GEF whip of theivery Although i usually don't get it past +10 or +11 because the mirror cloning charges are better used on boots of agility if you play natural limbs. | ||
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Oct 6, 2008 at 10:32 am |
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Past 10 the fail rate skyrockets. I used about 100 scrolls just enchanting each weapon to 16. | ||
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Oct 6, 2008 at 1:44 pm |
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Joined: Dec 17, 2007 Occupation: Taking Names, Formerly Kicking Ass Location: New Jersey Posts: 217 Groups:  | |
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the weight/str seems really uneven by weapon type. I wonder if this is intentional. | ||
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Oct 7, 2008 at 4:49 am |
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| Mage Prophet |
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Valpurium weapons up! | ||
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Oct 7, 2008 at 6:48 am |
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elder dark mage |
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Anybody know exactly how much more damage whips do when wet? they are usually soaked in various kinds of blood so they should be wet most of the time. a 10% bonus would be significant but I have no idea what it actually is. | ||
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Oct 7, 2008 at 10:03 am |
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| Mage Prophet |
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Only way to find out would be to use a stethoscope, I suppose. I'll see if I can do some tests for ya. Not this week though, I'm busy this week. | ||
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Oct 7, 2008 at 4:52 pm |
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elder dark mage |
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I was hoping someone would be able to get the answer by code-diving. However, if you want to derive the equation empirically that would be great too. | ||
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Oct 19, 2008 at 9:45 am |
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I seem to recall reading somewhere that to-hit and strength really only scale up to 20, so a +16 dagger wouldn't be any more accurate than a +16 battle axe, unless the axe had a base hit rating of <4. | ||
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"Put more stuff in the... thing where... more stuff goes in."  | ||
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Nov 13, 2011 at 1:33 pm |
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chaostrom wrote  Past 10 the fail rate skyrockets. I used about 100 scrolls just enchanting each weapon to 16. Where did you GET 100 scrolls? | ||
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Nov 13, 2011 at 2:55 pm |
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The town crier |
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Wand of cloning with three charges, seven scrolls of charging and five scrolls of enchant weapon. Or alternatively wizard mode. | ||
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Nov 13, 2011 at 3:00 pm |
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Yeah, this was all done in WM. I don't think you'd get all that in even a dozen games >_> | ||
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Nov 13, 2011 at 3:02 pm |
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The town crier |
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Oh, it's entirely possible to find those in a single game. It's not necessary to have seven charging scrolls, any combination of wands and the scrolls will do. There's plenty of time to find them up to GC13. | ||
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Nov 14, 2011 at 5:03 am |
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The items, perhaps, but not the AStr requirements, most of which are below what you start with  | ||
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