Repulsion |
Aug 4, 2010, 9:22 pm |
| This has been a question that has been nagging me for awhile. I\'ve heard people speak of UT4, but I\'ve never seen the stairs to it. Are the stairs in some small enclosed room which is not connected to the rest of UT3? I\'ve killed Jenny lots of times and sweeped through the level, but I\'ve never seen any other stairs... So, how do you get into UT4? |
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capristo |
Aug 4, 2010, 9:35 pm |
| Access is through UT level 2. You will notice there is always a circular shaped room with an area of stones in the center. You have to dig through the stones with a pickaxe or destroy them in some other way to reach the staircase within. | |
Repulsion |
Aug 5, 2010, 1:23 am |
| Thanks for the information. Is there anything down there that is especially valuable? | |
capristo |
Aug 5, 2010, 2:38 am |
| Nothing guaranteed, except the crystals, which make a good permanent light source. You can harvest them from the walls, but you\'ll need an extra strong pickaxe. However there are the usual random goodies. | |
BDR |
Aug 5, 2010, 3:31 am |
| UT4 is mostly good for generating lots of enemies, which is good if you\'re trying to win the sumo\'s belt of levitation as you have to be bloated to fight him. However, going down for a lark is not recommended due to the rampaging crystal golems who will rip weaker characters to shreds. | |
Lord Blade |
Dec 6, 2010, 2:18 pm |
| So just whack a crystal with a pickaxe to get one? | |
JoKe |
Dec 6, 2010, 2:24 pm |
| Or kick them down if your leg strength is through the roof. Those two are the only ways to break them. Explosions/wands are not powerful enough. | |
Lord Blade |
Dec 6, 2010, 2:27 pm |
| How much do these crystals weigh? What\'s the best light source to carry around? I\'ve always just grabbed that lantern that\'s always in the first room, and kept that. Though I\'ve only made it as far as the level past the one with the kamikaze dwarf minefield. That was my highest score too, about 6200 points.  |
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JoKe |
Dec 6, 2010, 2:31 pm |
| Best light sources are those that weigh the least and cannot be extinguished, i.e. light crystals at around 200g or flaming swords when wielded as a weapon for 0g added weight. Illithium lanterns are cool for the novelty value. |
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Lord Blade |
Dec 6, 2010, 2:32 pm |
| How much does an illitium lantern weigh? But those crystals do sound handy. And I love the flaming swords. I always use them when I find one. |
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JoKe |
Dec 6, 2010, 2:34 pm |
| No clue for the lantern weight, easiest way to test that is wizard mode. | |
Lord Blade |
Dec 6, 2010, 2:44 pm |
| I know that I\'m warned to get more \"durable\" light sources than lanterns. But in all the times I\'ve been mined and kamikazied, I\'ve never seen a lantern break. I have seen pretty much everything else go poof. My arcanite chainmail and ommel tooth gear gets destroyed... but even if I lose everything I\'m carrying... my lantern survives.  |
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JoKe |
Dec 6, 2010, 2:49 pm |
| Wait until you get up to enner beast, you\'ll better have a more durable light source than a lantern when you do. | |
4zb4 |
Dec 6, 2010, 6:22 pm |
| Also be warned of an invisible boss monster down there. | |
chaostrom |
Dec 6, 2010, 8:16 pm |
| JoKe: If you have heavy explosives, you can blow up the crystals 4zb4: What boss monster? It often has invisible stalkers but I\'ve never seen a boss down there |
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4zb4 |
Dec 6, 2010, 8:20 pm |
| The experiment ZQ...something. I think it spawns down there sometimes. | |
chaostrom |
Dec 6, 2010, 8:22 pm |
| You do know that has more to do with your stats than with a particular level. | |
4zb4 |
Dec 6, 2010, 8:25 pm |
| Huh... Well ok then. Just checked the script, and the only hard-coded monsters in that level are the three different crystal golems. Guess I must\'ve just run into experiment ZQ whatsit on that particular level. |
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JoKe |
Dec 6, 2010, 10:05 pm |
| [quote=\"chaostrom\";17507]JoKe: If you have heavy explosives, you can blow up the crystals As in how heavy? Given that I do not have experience in trying to blow the crystals up, I\'m not completely sure whether any vanilla explosives are enough for it. Stacking explosives shouldn\'t add to the explosion either, as any additional items will AFAIK just explode after the original ignition one at a time as separate explosions. The heaviest vanilla explosive is the big backpack of gunpowder, isn\'t it? As for the spider silk golem, he spawns according to your danger level instead of on any specific level. You just got lucky/unlucky to get him there. |
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chaostrom |
Dec 7, 2010, 3:29 am |
| I\'ve blown up crystals with big mines and backpacks of gunpowder before. | |
JoKe |
Dec 7, 2010, 6:25 am |
| I stand corrected. Explosives also work. Pickaxes are still more effective, though. |
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Ernomouse |
Dec 7, 2010, 8:04 pm |
| I believe you\'ll have to add wands of striking to your list, JoKe. I cannot check now and I\'m known to be wrong more often than I\'m right. | |
JoKe |
Dec 7, 2010, 8:35 pm |
| Wands of striking also seem to work. Darn it. So the things that can destroy the crystals are AT LEAST pick axes, kicking, explosions, wands. What more? |
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4zb4 |
Dec 8, 2010, 4:26 am |
| Silva quake maybe? | |
JoKe |
Dec 8, 2010, 6:07 am |
| That\'s quite unreliable way of doing it, seeing as a piece of ceiling would have to fall on one of the crystals and then mined out to get the chunks. Since the quake itself doesn\'t break even lanterns, why would it break the crystals? | |
Eagle V |
Dec 8, 2010, 7:14 am |
| Apart from big mines and backpacks, Legifer will also blow crystals to pieces. So will a wand of lightning, striking was already mentioned, Oily Orpiv will work as well, if the crystal is next to a wall or other target. Same goes for fireballs. A big mine is not necessary, a small one will do the trick. None of the other wands or items have an effect as far as I can tell, apart from the pickaxe of course. Silva won\'t do it. For kicking, LStr doesn\'t seem to do much (but you still need a certain minimum, I guess.) Boots, and strong ones at that, are necessary. I finally managed to kick the shard with 1000 LStr and valpurium boots of kicking +5. Also, this is what UT4 looked like in the end:  Summary: Things that break crystals: - Mines - Big mines - Backpacks full of Gunpowder - Wand of Lightning - Wand of Striking - Wand of Fireballs - Oily Orpiv - Legifer - Pickaxe - Kicking, if your boots are strong enough Edit - did I really type backpax? |
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JoKe |
Dec 8, 2010, 2:48 pm |
| Brilliant. | |
Batman? |
Dec 8, 2010, 4:00 pm |
| this is awesome - question - could you kick it down with lower lStr and higher enchanted boots? I guess the bigger question is which has a stronger effect on kicking, enchantment or lstr. | |
Ischaldirh |
Dec 8, 2010, 10:45 pm |
| [quote=\"Batman?\";17531]this is awesome - question - could you kick it down with lower lStr and higher enchanted boots? I guess the bigger question is which has a stronger effect on kicking, enchantment or lstr. I don\'t think this was ever definitively decided. Also, I\'m more and more beginning to feel like this thread should be moved to the spoily section... |
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slob |
Dec 22, 2010, 10:06 pm |
| Silva quake does not work. standing beside and praying to Legifer works. Pick axe meteroic steel will mine all except green light crystal. Mithril pickaxe mines all colour if you happen to kill a shopkeeper and back track or get a lucky find. Adamantium pick axe works like a hot damn if loricatus is feeling generous. I\'ve never tried it but if you could get Vladimir the Giant mutant carnivorous bunny to follow you out of GC then he would ransack the place too. Damn now i might have to play Ivan again and see if I can get Vladimir to follow me into Attnam to smash up the cathedral. Anyone ever done this? does he follow you out of GC? I\'ve certainly had him go head to head with Elpuri thats a lot of fun. helps if he dies and gets resurrected for the huge stats boosts (End) | |
chaostrom |
Dec 23, 2010, 3:13 am |
| I\'ve always had trouble getting Vlad to follow me. | |
slob |
Dec 23, 2010, 4:50 am |
| You can\'t be invisible. He has no infravision. I suppose you could feed him a bunch of mushrooms | |
chaostrom |
Dec 23, 2010, 10:50 am |
| I\'ve had trouble even with a magical whistle. | |
Batman? |
Dec 23, 2010, 4:51 pm |
| \"helps if he dies and gets resurrected for the huge stats boosts\" how does vladimir dying boost his stats? |
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slob |
Dec 24, 2010, 2:15 am |
| he goes down to zero HP and has to heal which boosts endurance. you can get him up over 4000 HP (as much as elprui) | |
capristo |
Dec 24, 2010, 2:18 pm |
| I\'ve pitted Vlad against Elpuri and Vlad always gets destroyed. He hadn\'t died previously though. | |
slob |
Dec 26, 2010, 7:37 pm |
| I\'ve had Vlad plus Ivan kill Elpuri once but never Vlad alone. A pack of baby mammoths works too if you tenderize them a bit first. | |