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RustKnight

 Nov 29, 2009, 4:35 pm
So if i get this right, i better pack some wooping 20 banans before going out of the cave level 5 and find that damn city. Cuz i recall starving in the wilderness map running around trying to find the city before starving to death (adding the irony that when i press to go in a specific location it says \"go there? you really have no interest stoping there...\" mmm no, except maybe some DAMN FOOD?! 1

Appart from that fustration, does carring lots of stuff make you hungrier? also more stronger? (having burdened, status) 2

Also i noticed that sometimes i find ghosts of my past self... with all the wooping items i had, i guess this happens random every time i start a new game, right? with a random dead character? 3 (judgeing that that Chararacter had a really high score, so he will be worthy of showing up)

Funny thing is i had a wand of necromancy and used it on my dead \"Rupert\" character, and to my surprise it raised from the dead ! even more, he started equiping his equipment back! WOOJ... what a rush. Next question - i was wondering if weather ressurection scroll brings him back to life?4 that would be like a wooping coop play with myself, exept i am playing from another dimension. Don\'t you just love new hyped forum people? (don\'t answer that one^^)

And last one: how can i raise my INT and WIS stats? and what is the diffrence beetween them? or better yet, how can i raise ANY of my stats? and what use do each one have? 5 (okay i may have been too much pretiontios with the last question )

capristo

 Nov 29, 2009, 4:56 pm
1) When you are in the world map, you can look using the L key and arrow keys, and find the city! Of course, sometimes there may be a convoluted route to get there and you end up going the wrong way, but it does show you where it is. That\'s something I only learned after many characters starving to death as well.

2) Yes being burdened makes you hungry faster, and it makes your legs stronger.

3) Yes I think it can happen randomly any time you enter a new level. There are some certain cases where it won\'t happen but I can\'t think of them right now.

4) I\'m not sure about the difference between necromancy and resurrection. If you used a resurrection wand then yes he would definitely be back and you can play with him (but can\'t control him much).

5) For INT and WIS you can raise them both by raising scrolls and books, that is the easiest way. INT is most useful for hardening your item materials.

RustKnight

 Nov 29, 2009, 5:05 pm
subject 3 and 5 are still open for answering, and thank you very much for the accorded time capristo!

And what does Wisdom do ?

Ischaldirh

 Nov 29, 2009, 6:16 pm
Wisdom helps you with god relations -- you gain more favor when you pray. With enough wisdom it\'s possible to pray to Valpurus and gain favor with Mortifer. Raising it can be hard -- I believe it can be sci-trained, the only other methods I know of are reading holy books, prayer, and sacrifices.

As for bones files (when you find a corpse of yourself), they happen on levels you died on. However certain game features being disturbed -- such as Jenny, the secret rooms in the GC, the Enner Beast, the shop -- will prevent bones files from generating in the first place.

And on the wands -- A wand of necromancy will make a rotting zombie out of a corpse. A wand of resurection actually brings them back to life. However, the wands of resurrection only bring the body back to life -- if there is no soul nearby to inhabit the body, it\'ll die again immediately.

capristo

 Nov 29, 2009, 6:32 pm
Can you explain more about the soul thing? How do you know if the soul is nearby?

RustKnight

 Nov 29, 2009, 7:17 pm
and whats with the game fetures you mentioned? that disturb corpses pf myself appear? Was it actually intentioned for them to appear everytime you play or... ?

Somagu

 Nov 29, 2009, 8:17 pm
Soul means ghost. When the ghost flies over the dead body he formerly inhabited you can zap the wand of resurrection, otherwise, you can\'t.

As for certain level features being disturbed, that means, for example, killing/discovering certain level specific unique features, and then dying on that level, will prevent you from discovering that body on that level in the future.

capristo

 Nov 29, 2009, 8:34 pm
But for anybody who is NOT your previous character, they can be resurrected no matter what right?

Somagu

 Nov 29, 2009, 8:41 pm
Unless they are uniques in certain builds of the game (cvs? livan?), yes.

chaostrom

 Nov 30, 2009, 1:03 am
As to your question of how to raise stats, that is covered quite comprehensively already. Browse about, you may find more than that to your interest

Somagu

 Nov 30, 2009, 1:07 am
Ah! I forgot of an exception to what I said before, you can\'t resurrect humanoids if you decapitated them, unless you put a replacement head with the body.

If memory serves, mind.

RustKnight

 Nov 30, 2009, 3:30 am
Ok but isn\'t baitting the ghost over the dead body kinda tricky? and how am i suppose to fuse his head back if he lost it?

And i still didn\'t get it about the features.... you mean like killing gematrix the big plant? and again, is this meant to be intentional ?

Ah, are wands rechargeable?

Somagu

 Nov 30, 2009, 4:32 am
Yes, killing Genetrix and dying on the same floor means you will not be able to encounter the body of the person you were just playing as, on another character. This is intentional as if you could do that you could go ahead and, for example, kill Genetrix and die, and then when you got to that level again, with a new character, Genetrix would still be dead, which would give the player an unfair advantage.

Baiting the ghost over the body can be difficult but you shouldn\'t necessarily be forcing yourself to do it whenever possible.

The fusing of a head is taken care of when you resurrect the headless body, all you need to do is place the head on the same tile as the body.

RustKnight

 Nov 30, 2009, 5:35 am
I thank thee for your time, ah and what about the wands, are they rechargeable? or just plain useless afterwords?

Somagu

 Nov 30, 2009, 5:51 am
Wands are rechargeable with scrolls of charging.

RustKnight

 Nov 30, 2009, 6:24 am
and i guess they fully charge ? and is the number of charges in a wand random ?

Somagu

 Nov 30, 2009, 6:43 am
Yes and yes.

It\'d be greatly appreciated if you read into the forums and the wiki for your questions, as they\'re all either very simple or already answered elsewhere.

capristo

 Nov 30, 2009, 11:37 am
About the wands, they have a random initial number of charges, but every time you recharge them, they get the same amount.

I think you were asking if encountering your ghosts is intentional, yes it is a feature of the game. That\'s why you have a folder called \"Bones\", that\'s where all your ghost levels are saved.

I don\'t mind all the newbie questions, the forum was getting boring and he may not want to read the Wiki because of the spoilers.

RustKnight

 Nov 30, 2009, 2:58 pm
No it\'s just that i have some questions that are more specific...

RustKnight

 Nov 30, 2009, 6:46 pm
AStr = Arm Strength
Increases damage inflicted on enemies
Source: Fighting in general, digging.

Found this on wiki, what does it mean by digging? how can you dig?

Ischaldirh

 Nov 30, 2009, 7:03 pm
\'A\'pply a pick-axe on the walls.

RustKnight

 Nov 30, 2009, 7:35 pm
Ah, very nice !

Somagu

 Nov 30, 2009, 10:04 pm
Don\'t get me wrong, Capristo, I\'m more than willing to answer his questions, I\'m just asking him because some of his questions are already answered elsewhere. But I suppose I can\'t blame him for not wanting to look.

Alveradok

 Dec 1, 2009, 1:03 am
[quote=\"RustKnight\";14151]subject 3 and 5 are still open for answering, and thank you very much for the accorded time capristo!

And what does Wisdom do ?



Ding dong hi thar, dood.

I think the most important use of Wisdom is... increasing Your intelligence. Which is very important because, as Capristo noted - it is helpful with changing materials. And teleporting.

If You sci-talk (\'C\'hat with for example hunters and spawn some overcomplicated, sophisticated topics), Your Intelligence is trained (as is Wisdom, actually). Certain beings have certain requirements of BOTH Int and Wis.

Apart from sci-talk, reading some more \"rare\" scrolls trains Int very good (it\'s more benefitable to read a scroll of enchant weapon then for example even 3 scrolls of teleportation).

If You want a good way to train Wisdom, I suggest that as soon as You get to know some gods and decide which You want to have the best reations with (for starters You could choose one alignment of gods, like for example pray ONLY to Silva, Loricatus and Mellis), You just pray every now and then. Even when You don\'t need their assistance - the gods in IVAN are benelovent and luv prayers\'n\'shit. After some prayers, to either of them, You should notice Your Wisdom stat rising.

Cheers

capristo

 Dec 1, 2009, 2:02 am
Ah yeah, INT is useful for teleporting too as Al mentions. When you have telecontrol, the higher your INT, the farther away you can teleport under control (if you try to teleport outside of that range, you will instead appear in a random square).

And yeah... I don\'t find WIS useful either except for boosting INT

chaostrom

 Dec 1, 2009, 3:10 am
I think Slob would disagree. Higher WIS means you can safely juggle a higher number of gods, if I\'ve got that right.

RustKnight

 Dec 1, 2009, 6:45 am
Ah that you mentioned about gods and praying... what interval should i pray on ? so that they won\'t get angry ? and how do you become a champion of a god? and what does your alignment do ?

Ischaldirh

 Dec 1, 2009, 7:37 am
You have to get 1000 (I believe) piety points with a god to become their champion; however, this only matters with Mortifer and Valpurus, as they will hurt you if you pray to them without being their champion.

As far as when to pray, you should do it roughly once every 3 game-hours. To make it safe you may want to go a little longer, do it once every 4. Praying never makes you lose piety unless you get a negative god effect, in which case the prayer time-out counter is a LOT longer. Also, praying early will cost you piety and will give you a long prayer timeout. I\'m not sure exactly how long but I\'d advice waiting a day or two before praying again in either case.

As far as alignment... I\'m not sure. It\'s certainly tied to which gods you pray/sacrifice to, I\'m not sure if anything else contributes to it. I don\'t know about it\'s ingame effects. Certain weapons will also draw your alignment towards chaotic -- Neerc se\'Ulb, and I believe Mjolak. This will have an adverse effect on your standing with lawful gods.

4zb4

 Dec 3, 2009, 5:36 am
[quote=\"Ischaldirh\";14214]You have to get 1000 (I believe) diety points with a god to become their champion; however, this only matters with Mortifer and Valpurus, as they will hurt you if you pray to them without being their champion.


Don\'t forget Atavus too, minus the hurting part.

Somagu

 Dec 3, 2009, 7:38 am
That\'s not entirely true, he replaces limbs IIRC.

Ischaldirh

 Dec 3, 2009, 8:16 am
Atavus\' arcanite plate mail is actually available starting at only 500 piety. Higher piety increases the likelyhood that he\'ll give it to you when you pray though.

RustKnight

 Dec 3, 2009, 1:51 pm
Ah, another question, how do you put banana lumps into bana cans? i heard its a better way to conserve them. And what should i do with empty bottles? what do they do ? (i guess filling, but with what, and how)

Alveradok

 Dec 3, 2009, 2:00 pm
Using the \'dip\' command (\'!\' key) You can for example make two \"half-full\" bottles of healing liquid by dipping a bottle of healing liquid in an empty bottle. Before late game, You don\'t need the full, 1150g, ones anyway, and drinking a 650g one will result in a full heal anyway.

Praying to Mellis may help You make use of the empty bottles, too

BDR

 Dec 3, 2009, 2:44 pm
Personally, I find cans of healing fluid rather nicer.

RustKnight

 Dec 3, 2009, 2:49 pm
yes but how can i conserve food from rotting ?

Ischaldirh

 Dec 3, 2009, 5:06 pm
You can\'t

EDIT: Well, not entirely true. You can\'t can foods, though praying to Mellis can fill up to 5 empty cans with random foodstuffs. However you can also zap rottable items with a wand of slow, which causes them to rot much more slowly. (You can also zap them with a wand of haste, if you want them to rot away really fast.)

RustKnight

 Dec 3, 2009, 6:54 pm
Can\'t i just zap foods that didn\'t yet start rotting ? why should i wait them to rot first?
And another questions is... if i pray to chaotic gods, does that reduce the favor for good gods? and how do neutral gods stand ? (i guess it has something to do with your alignment)

AND

what does the whistle do ?

Somagu

 Dec 3, 2009, 11:12 pm
Yes, he meant that zapping the food slows the rotting process, it doesn\'t matter how rotted it is before you zap it.

Yes, praying to one god reduces favor for all gods in a certain range based on your wisdom, I believe, neutral or not.

The whistle calls your pets to your side, the magical whistle teleports all of your pets to your side.

Ischaldirh

 Dec 4, 2009, 6:48 am
As a general rule of thumb: Praying to any given god increases favor for that god, increases favor for the gods just above and below alignment wise a little less, increases favor for the gods one past that a lot less, does nothing for the gods one past THAT, and knocks your favor with all the rest. For example:

I pray to Loricatus (N=). I gain, say, 10 favor with him (these numbers are coming straight out of my ass, btw). I also gain 6 favor with Silva (N+) and Mellis (N-), and 3 favor with Sophos (L-) and Cleptia (C+). Nothing happens to my favor with Seges, Dulcis (both L), Nefas, or Scabies (both C). I lose favor with all the rest of the gods.

Now I may be wrong on the range here; praying to a god may only increase for one alignment range, do nothing, for two, and cost you for the rest. But I think that\'s about right. I know it\'s reasonably viable to pray to up to a 5 alignment range worth of gods, as long as you do them all at the same time and are careful not to anger any of them.

That\'s another thing, this is all assuming your prayer doesn\'t result in an anger effect. I have no idea how that would influence favor.

capristo

 Dec 4, 2009, 10:54 am
Question about the whistle: Is there a limited range the whistle has where pets can hear it, or a % chance that it won\'t work, or anything like that?

RustKnight

 Dec 4, 2009, 5:11 pm
Because i personaly find the whistle freakin usefull, cuz my buddies allways get lost on the way, or teleported away from a blue dragon, and it\'s annoying to run arround the dungeon searching for them while starving myself to death...

Oh and what does the nuts do? i once found oone, ate it, and then it said that i\'ve did a bad deed...

slob

 Dec 5, 2009, 2:47 am
you ate testicles!

nut as in Petrus\' left nut, testes, balls, cahones, gonads, prairie oysters, juevos, family jewels. Eating human flesh is an evil deed. Apparently dwarves aren;t human so feel free to pick up a Kamikaze dwarf head for lunch after he assplodes himself next to you

RustKnight

 Dec 5, 2009, 1:21 pm
A..... right.

So what do you do with them? except eating and looking like an ass on the forums?

Ernomouse

 Dec 5, 2009, 1:56 pm
xD Rusty, that\'s the best one for a while... I think you need Petrus\' left nut for one of the chaotic victories.

Ischaldirh

 Dec 5, 2009, 6:40 pm
The actual left nut, not a copy.

Eagle V

 Dec 6, 2009, 7:42 am
Expensive copies are worth a lot if you sell them, but are as far as I know useless otherwise.

taraN

 Dec 7, 2009, 3:48 pm
[quote=\"Eagle V\";14282]Expensive copies are worth a lot if you sell them, but are as far as I know useless otherwise.


You can offer them to Mellis which will be appreciated greatly

RustKnight

 Dec 9, 2009, 7:07 pm
Question: i am playing Livian, and noticed that it has another attribute called Wil, whats that? i guess it\'s willpower?, what does it do ?

Somagu

 Dec 9, 2009, 9:42 pm
At the moment, nothing.

capristo

 Dec 10, 2009, 2:47 am
Yes Wil is Willpower, it was added in CVS wasn\'t it?

Somagu

 Dec 10, 2009, 2:57 am
Correct.

RustKnight

 Dec 15, 2009, 7:18 pm
How do i face that etter beast? i made 2 great chars and both died at that point. Hm, sorry i think it was called enner ^^

chaostrom

 Dec 16, 2009, 1:29 am
Don\'t approach it, the closer you are the more damage you take. Wands of fireball are your best bet.

capristo

 Dec 16, 2009, 4:46 am
Yeah, wands of fireball. Striking doesn\'t seem to be as effective.

RustKnight

 Dec 16, 2009, 4:53 am
Yes but most of the time i can\'t see it, ways of killing it - i have plentey.

BDR

 Dec 16, 2009, 7:07 am
Scrolls of detect material are invaluable for *seeing* it; just detect enner flesh and you will know exactly where it is at all times. If you have trouble finding a scroll of that, the bookstore in Attnam should have one.

RustKnight

 Dec 16, 2009, 5:39 pm
Omg you\'re the wiz, did you find out this by yourself? Oh and what does the Murdar Pass scroll, do ? i ussualy sell it, cuz if i read it it would take me ages (never got till the end of it anyway).

Somagu

 Dec 16, 2009, 5:58 pm
Mondedr pass, yet another LIVAN item, can be sold for a good amount of money, as you said, read to increase certain stats, or given to someone in I think Attnam to reveal a new place on the world map.

capristo

 Dec 16, 2009, 5:59 pm
I\'m pretty sure you have to give the Mondedr pass to someone in New Attnam.
If it\'s your first time definitely do that.. it\'s fun to explore the new maps rather than just selling it for cash.

RustKnight

 Dec 16, 2009, 6:30 pm
Thanks yet again fellas... say, are you guys tripping to elmo\'s reunion party?

Btw reading that damned papper did lower my attributes(cuz i wasn\'t practicing, or walking around), and allmost starved me to death. Also i went all around the town of new attnam and attnam, talked with all the people, still no says anything about it. (the irony is that after posting the question regarding it, i found 3 of them in one of my next game)

capristo

 Dec 17, 2009, 9:10 pm
Who\'s elmo?

Somagu

 Dec 17, 2009, 9:30 pm
Erno.

capristo

 Dec 17, 2009, 10:21 pm
I know.

chaostrom

 Dec 18, 2009, 2:58 am
[quote=\"capristo\";14372]Who\'s elmo?


Elmo

Ernomouse

 Dec 18, 2009, 11:18 am
I should\'ve left my warning there. =P

RustKnight

 Dec 18, 2009, 6:40 pm
Damn, sorry i have this problem with forreign names, i read them partially through lines and mess them up, a bit too quick to the eye.

PS bump to my previous question pls

4zb4

 Dec 19, 2009, 1:37 am
4zb4\'s mondedr pass guide:
OPTIONS
1) Read. And starve. Gain some INT and WIS. Lose most everything else.
2) Give to the mystery man in New Attnam (he\'s usually north-east of the sumo\'s house) to reveal the location of Mondedr on the world map.
3) Sell for quick cash
4) Use to train DEX

chaostrom

 Dec 19, 2009, 2:46 am
[quote=\"RustKnight\";14389]Damn, sorry i have this problem with forreign names, i read them partially through lines and mess them up, a bit too quick to the eye.


The posts aren\'t going anywhere mate, take your time and read properly. \'Tis rude not to ya know.

RustKnight

 Dec 29, 2009, 12:29 pm
Been a while since i posted my last question, so here goes the next one:
What are the implications of dual manipulation of weapons/shields or use of both handed on a weapon (using a normal sized axe with 2 hands)
And are there any offhands settings for using lets say a long weapon and short one (long sword short sword/axe and dagger)

Alveradok

 Dec 29, 2009, 4:03 pm
A weapon is automatically wielded with 2 hands if it\'s the only way for You to handle it (i.e. if You are to weak to wield it with one hand). I am not sure of any implications on dual weapons, so I won\'t contribute

There are no such \"fixed limitations\" like in Your last sentence. The AStr requirements are pretty much everything - if You have enough, You can wield a two-handed sword with one hand, if You have even more, You can wield a HALBERD with one hand. The requirements depend on the weapon/shield type and material.

BDR

 Dec 29, 2009, 4:42 pm
If you are only wielding one weapon both arms are used regardless of whether you can wield it one-handed or not. When you try to wield a weapon in your other hand, only then does the game worry about whether the arm you\'re using to wield the original weapon is strong enough or not (and ISTR Chaostrom finding that individual arm strength does matter, though this will hardly ever be apparent unless you go around one-armed for a long period of time before getting back your lost arm). There is a penalty for using a weapon that you are just barely strong enough to wield (in one hand or otherwise), but I don\'t recall if the specific numbers have been posted anywhere.

slob

 Dec 29, 2009, 4:44 pm
Of course you can also change the material to a lighter stronger material. E.g., Ur Khan\'s ruby halberd is easily used one handed.

RustKnight

 Dec 29, 2009, 8:49 pm
But as long as you are able to weild both weapons with no penalty, there are no further, dexterty penalty lets say? (i am thinking something like in D&D)

Example...

I am able to weild easily 2 swords but i may be after all more efecient using only 1 sword, or let\'s say 1 sword and a knife at most (saying that passing the STR check there should be a DEX check)

Alveradok

 Dec 29, 2009, 10:28 pm
No dex penalties, I\'m sure.

Ischaldirh

 Dec 30, 2009, 1:07 am
I believe there might be some sort of to-hit or speed penalty, though I\'m pulling this out of my ass. However I\'m pretty certain there is no less of a penalty (if any exists in the first place) for wielding a smaller weapon in your \"off\" hand. In fact doing so is probably a bad idea as it would slow down your proficiency growth with each weapon.

RustKnight

 Dec 30, 2009, 6:44 am
Onto the next series of Q\'s... !

How can i heal my slave? he lost both of his legs...
Does it matter if i reattach my old arm, or drink a potion and grow a new one?

Oh and if i ressurect one of my old characters and i res him with another ghost soul than his, will it still work ?

4zb4

 Dec 30, 2009, 6:56 am
Heal the slave - Drop a bottle of healing liquid near him and hope he drinks it. Or zap a wand of resurrection at him iirc.
Arms - IIRC, your old arm will have all the previously built up stats for it, a new one won\'t.
Old character\'s ghost - Try it and find out

Alveradok

 Dec 30, 2009, 12:44 pm
[quote=\"4zb4\";14506]hope he drinks it. Or zap a wand of resurrection at him iirc.
Arms - IIRC, your old arm will have all the previously built up stats for it, a new one won\'t.



A new arm will have the same stats, as if it was an old arm reattached.

capristo

 Dec 30, 2009, 4:34 pm
Yes a new arm will have the same stats, otherwise healing liquids and troll blood would be relatively worthless.

RustKnight

 Jan 3, 2010, 9:56 am
What does scarring do?

4zb4

 Jan 3, 2010, 10:32 am
It reduces the body part\'s HP by 1 I believe and can also reduce an attribute like DEX or AGI.

RustKnight

 Jan 3, 2010, 3:01 pm
Why my resurrected chars or cloned chars don\'t follow me so close as my puppy or slave does? i mean it\'s really hard to keep them following even with the frekin whistle, and on top of that a magic whistle... Was it intentional coding?

Alveradok

 Jan 3, 2010, 4:14 pm
It may be like that because followers generally run here and there to kill monsters, so if it\'s the case, it\'s intentional.

The puppy initially has 18 perception and the slave has 15 perception, while a ressurected char retains the perception he had whilst You were playing him - which, unless he had some carrots or ommel tears, or trained, is no more than 11. The puppy and slave therefore see 2-4 squares further are usually are somehat faster than a ressurected player.

tl;dr it\'s all about perception and actually seeing You.

Don\'t worry RustKnight - when Your followers will have ESP, things will go a lot more smoother!

4zb4

 Jan 3, 2010, 8:58 pm
Doesn\'t the slave have stats calculated in the same way as the player seeing as they both use the \"playerkind\" entry in the script?

Alveradok

 Jan 3, 2010, 11:22 pm
(You can\'t start with more than 11 per, I stethoscoped the slave and he had more)

RustKnight

 Jan 4, 2010, 2:30 pm
Ah i see, that ESP advice is a good one, i guess that\'s one way to make them follow you better, but then again i have to hope for them to have high intel...
Oh, and how do i clone an object with the wand of cloning ? (or is it meant only for creatures?)

BDR

 Jan 4, 2010, 3:39 pm
Put object on floor, move aside, zap object.

brudswick

 May 1, 2010, 4:09 pm
I drank from a fountain and I \'sudenly got the feeling I wasn\'t alone any more\' what dose that mean?
what are /where are piety points, how are they trained
dose this forem have a bestiary?
if you have esp when you get to attnam can you hear petrus\' telepathic conversation, and what dose he say?
can you beat the game bare handed?
tips for defeating that fucking sumo.

EDIT: You could check your spelling, though. //Ernomouse//

Somagu

 May 1, 2010, 6:25 pm

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I drank from a fountain and I \'sudenly got the feeling I wasn\'t alone any more\' what dose that mean?


It means you have a parasite, and you need to vomit it out, drink antidote liquid, or grow a pair of stones big enough to survive drinking a bottle of sulphuric acid (don\'t count on it).


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what are /where are piety points, how are they trained


Piety points are raised by praying, sacrificing, or kneeling on the altar of the god of your choice, gods have a cooldown timer on prayers however, and they\'ll get really pissed off if you do it too often or pray to too wide of a spectrum of gods.


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dose this forem have a bestiary?



Yes.


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if you have esp when you get to attnam can you hear petrus\' telepathic conversation, and what dose he say?


No.


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can you beat the game bare handed?


Maybe if you\'re Slob, otherwise that\'s probably not a great idea.


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tips for defeating that fucking sumo.


Here.

capristo

 May 1, 2010, 8:03 pm
So that\'s what a bestiary is

brudswick

 May 7, 2010, 2:02 am
can I get a chart with food values on it? like a calory chart corresponding to starving, very hungry, hungry, [blank], satiated, bloated and over fed? at what point do I pass out? at what point do I vomit? what takes energy away? I really think that because eating is so important to the game , that it should be more aparent in the game. also why cant I die of dehydration? it kills you much quicker then starvation? and a little off topic here but I did have esp when I went to see petris, and as it turns out the cut scene, if you will, does not infact edit to tell me their telepathic conversation. I guess esp in this case doesnt include telepathy , only claircoyance.

Ischaldirh

 May 7, 2010, 10:00 am
Brudswick, I don\'t know if you\'ve noticed, but IVAN isn\'t big on giving hard numerical values. That said, even games which do, rarely if ever give you a specific value for your hunger. If you\'re hungry, eat something. If you carry more stuff, you get hungrier, faster. The data you\'re asking for, while probably somewhat helpful, isn\'t really necessary. In fact even if I *had* access to that data I personally wouldn\'t use it much, because I find playing that way to be exceedingly boring and tedious. (Hmm, maybe that\'s why I\'ve only won once...)

That said. It probably wouldn\'t be too hard to whip one up yourself. Go into the script files and read up on the materials, especially the foods; it should be pretty self-exploratory. Beyond that I suspect the only thing that will matter for the satiation values of a specific food item, is the item itself\'s volume, which can be found in the item script file. Unless you\'re asking only and specifically about what numerical satiation level you would drop from satiated to normal. In which case, good luck with that.

BDR

 May 7, 2010, 3:42 pm
If you keep yourself unburdened and eat all the safely edible corpses you eliminate 99% of all hunger problems. Seriously, satiation lasts quite a while if you\'re unburdened. Burdened and stressed states make your hunger clock move considerably/quite a lot faster respectively, which is great if you\'re bloated or overfed and don\'t want to be but bad if you\'re satiated or less.

(if you are in desperate need of exact time values, I have no life and can provide them)