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Batman?
Jan 20, 2009, 2:53 am

Is there any collected info on the CVs? I just started playing it and I have a few questions. I just found a weeping blade, what does it do and is it worth training?

chaostrom
Jan 20, 2009, 3:54 am

Weeping blade... I think that\'s the one that coats itself in acid for extra damage. It\'s just a short sword otherwise.

Batman?
Jan 20, 2009, 11:33 am

thanks. Is an Acid shield worth it? also what do scars do?

capristo
Jan 20, 2009, 2:00 pm

I think when you get scars your maximum health drops a couple points.

Ischaldirh
Jan 20, 2009, 8:27 pm

Acid shield is damn rare. It splashes acid on enemies and their weapons. I don\'t know how worth it it is, however while I was coding it I did a few tests in WM. It is useless against plants, and worse than useless against any enemy armed with a whip. Other humanoids seem to get fucked by it pretty bad. Just don\'t be expecting them to drop any weapons for you.

Cerumen
Jan 21, 2009, 10:28 pm

My question about CVS: Did Scabies effect of \"leprosy for the whole level\" got removed? Also, random polymorph is a bit wacky because 80% of the time you change into a random ghost.

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also what do scars do?

Scars...? I never encountered/noticed them.

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I just found a weeping blade, what does it do and is it worth training?

In my experience, crystal blades are a good light source, aside from that, they break like no tomorrow.

Batman?
Jan 25, 2009, 4:47 am

does stealing the vodka in the basement of the temple make everyone angry?

BDR
Jan 25, 2009, 7:47 am

Re: Scars - if you get one on your torso, you lose 1 HP. If it\'s on your arms or legs, you will instead lose a statpoint (which kind depends on where it is; leg scars = Agi/Lstr, arm scars = Dex/Astr). I believe head scars might also result in Int/Wis loss, but I don\'t think I\'ve ever gotten any.

Batman?
Jan 25, 2009, 3:09 pm

I am guessing venom bkades poison the victim?

also the holy hand grenade of antioch or some such item, how good/dangerous is it.

finally there seems to be no liquid randomly generated besides valdemar (I think this is noted)

Cerumen
Jan 25, 2009, 4:03 pm

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Re: Scars - if you get one on your torso, you lose 1 HP. If it\'s on your arms or legs, you will instead lose a statpoint (which kind depends on where it is; leg scars = Agi/Lstr, arm scars = Dex/Astr). I believe head scars might also result in Int/Wis loss, but I don\'t think I\'ve ever gotten any.

How do you get scars? Regular damage? I did remember having my stats drop without any clear reason, so that must have been it.

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does stealing the vodka in the basement of the temple make everyone angry?

No. In fact, think of it as a free lump of money.

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I am guessing venom bkades poison the victim?

It self-covers with poison, so roughly, yes.

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also the holy hand grenade of antioch or some such item, how good/dangerous is it.

Apply it before throwing and see yourself. I personally like throwing one inside Decos\'s temple. Also, in CVS, you can kill the palm leaf slaves as collateral damage without pissing off the whole village

capristo
Jan 25, 2009, 7:03 pm

[quote=\"Cerumen\"]How do you get scars? Regular damage? I did remember having my stats drop without any clear reason, so that must have been it.

I think it\'s random but you have a much higher chance of getting one if you drop to dark red or gray in that limb/torso. That\'s just from my experience. It took me a while to figure out why my HP was dropping as well.

Batman?
Jan 25, 2009, 8:57 pm

Im not sure if this is the htread for collecting buggy observations as well, but Mortifer seems to be broken in the CVS, I was reccomended by Cruentus and had sacced to get \"Very Pleased\" at a Mort alter, and was extremely chaotic, but he kept zappiong me every time I prayed.

Ischaldirh
Jan 25, 2009, 11:35 pm

Not a bug. Like Valpurus you must be declared Champion before he will give you anything, and then after you pray the timer is several days before you can safely pray again. But boy is it worth it!

Batman?
Jan 26, 2009, 4:32 pm

I thought that is what happens when Cruentus Roccomends me to his master? Plus I got \"champion of the cause\" from cleptia as well. I got the reccomendation from Cruentus, and sacced my way up to very pleased, but still kept getting blasted.

capristo
Jan 26, 2009, 5:05 pm

You thought wrong. Like Atomic said you have to be Mortifer\'s champion. He really loves the crystal skulls that necromancers drop

Ischaldirh
Jan 26, 2009, 9:43 pm

Cruentus\' recommendation just gives you some favor points with Mortifer. Being Cleptia\'s champion might help you with Mortifer as well, but again, you need to be Mortifer\'s champ before he\'ll help you.

slob
Jan 27, 2009, 5:03 am

well unless they changed the god code in the CVS only Cruentus and Infuscor (both C-)will help you curry favor with Mortifer (C--). Praying/offering to Scabies and Nefas (C) will have absolutely no effect (neither good nor bad) and praying to Cleptia (C+) will cause you to lose favor with Mortifer.

Batman?
Jan 27, 2009, 6:15 pm

I havent seen any randomly place landmines in CVS outside of Big room and certain gods alter rooms. Also skeletons all seem to be generated without equipment.

also it seems like enners damage is toned down.

Is it of any value for me to llist all the things I notice about the CVS? I would hate to be wasting peoples time.

Ernomouse
Jan 27, 2009, 7:15 pm

Well, it\'s never a bad thing to post bugs... But as IVAN hasn\'t seen an official update in three or more years, there is only little chance that anything would happen anyway.

And the people are wasting their own time if they read about stuff they don\'t want/need/aren\'t interested in. No-one is obliged to read the yellow topics...

Batman?
Jan 31, 2009, 12:05 pm

Also there seems to be a new stat, what does it do? Eating the holy bananna gives +1 to all stats but the new one, thats probably a bug.

slob
Mar 22, 2009, 5:38 am

Yeah, iwas wondering about the willpower stat too. I just started playing my first ever game of IVAN CVS.

Other changes I\'ve noticed that haven;t been commented on yet
1. mellis gives out school food very rarely now so it is no longer a viable method to gain End/HP. This makes the game much harder which is good for me I guess.

2. the \".\" is no longer a direction key or maybe that is just with Z\'s 3d version

3. there was something else but i forget what.....

4zb4
Mar 27, 2009, 8:12 am

Willpower...
I\'m guessing that\'s your player\'s resistance to spells?
That would be hella useful.
cursed bloody arsefaced Ishaldric...

chaostrom
Mar 27, 2009, 11:53 am

If I remember aright, Willpower affects your relation with gods. The more Willpower you have, the easier it is to gain favour.

Batman?
Mar 27, 2009, 1:39 pm

I though that was wisdom, which was alreay in the game. Im talking about the new stat in CVS.

chaostrom
Mar 27, 2009, 2:38 pm

Oops, right you are.

Lordmushroom
Aug 29, 2009, 10:02 am

Could it have anything to do with scrolls? Like, scrolls of taming works better if you have loads of willpower or something like that. Also I have been wondering about the Attnam catacombs, is there supposed to be something in the coffin in the bottom floor? It\'s kind of spooky when you open it, but all it does seem to be attracting ghosts?

Bored One
Aug 29, 2009, 7:11 pm

Unfinished dungeon, I\'d say. The coffin doesn\'t even have it\'s own graphic.

4zb4
Aug 30, 2009, 10:06 am

The coffin raises your alignment (+) if you put bottles of vodka into it.
I remember my alignment jumping from neutral to mildly lawful after doing that.

chaostrom
Aug 30, 2009, 10:21 am

Actually, it\'s the reverse, I just tested it. Putting bottles of vodka in the coffin makes you more chaotic.

Lordmushroom
Aug 30, 2009, 11:42 am

Thanks, have you tested Valdemar and other liquids too?

chaostrom
Aug 31, 2009, 4:23 am

Actually, it seems to work with anything at all. Here\'s how it changes your god relations per item:

L++ goes down 25
L+ goes down 20
L goes down 15
L- goes down 10
N+ goes down 5
N doesn\'t change
N- goes up 5
C+ goes up 10
C goes up 15
C- goes up 20
C-- goes up 25

Lordmushroom
Aug 31, 2009, 3:06 pm

What happens if i take them away? ^^ Does it decrease alignment?

chaostrom
Sep 1, 2009, 4:25 am

Upon further testing, the alignment changes each time you change (put or take) the contents of the coffin, not per item.

Comrade
Sep 1, 2009, 7:45 pm

What do the coffins do?

chaostrom
Sep 2, 2009, 5:32 am

Comrade, we just discussed that...

It makes you more chaotic each time you take or put something in the coffin.

4zb4
Sep 4, 2009, 12:00 pm

Try putting Lenin\'s mummy in the coffin... See what happens.

chaostrom
Sep 4, 2009, 1:23 pm

Actually, that\'s the first thing I tried.

Comrade
Sep 4, 2009, 8:01 pm

[quote=\"chaostrom\";12610]Comrade, we just discussed that...

It makes you more chaotic each time you take or put something in the coffin.

I sorry...

Batman?	Jan 20, 2009, 2:53 am
Is there any collected info on the CVs? I just started playing it and I have a few questions. I just found a weeping blade, what does it do and is it worth training?

chaostrom	Jan 20, 2009, 3:54 am
Weeping blade... I think that\'s the one that coats itself in acid for extra damage. It\'s just a short sword otherwise.

Batman?	Jan 20, 2009, 11:33 am
thanks. Is an Acid shield worth it? also what do scars do?

capristo	Jan 20, 2009, 2:00 pm
I think when you get scars your maximum health drops a couple points.

Ischaldirh	Jan 20, 2009, 8:27 pm
Acid shield is damn rare. It splashes acid on enemies and their weapons. I don\'t know how worth it it is, however while I was coding it I did a few tests in WM. It is useless against plants, and worse than useless against any enemy armed with a whip. Other humanoids seem to get fucked by it pretty bad. Just don\'t be expecting them to drop any weapons for you.

Batman?	Jan 25, 2009, 4:47 am
does stealing the vodka in the basement of the temple make everyone angry?

BDR	Jan 25, 2009, 7:47 am
Re: Scars - if you get one on your torso, you lose 1 HP. If it\'s on your arms or legs, you will instead lose a statpoint (which kind depends on where it is; leg scars = Agi/Lstr, arm scars = Dex/Astr). I believe head scars might also result in Int/Wis loss, but I don\'t think I\'ve ever gotten any.

Batman?	Jan 25, 2009, 3:09 pm
I am guessing venom bkades poison the victim? also the holy hand grenade of antioch or some such item, how good/dangerous is it. finally there seems to be no liquid randomly generated besides valdemar (I think this is noted)

capristo	Jan 25, 2009, 7:03 pm
[quote=\"Cerumen\"]How do you get scars? Regular damage? I did remember having my stats drop without any clear reason, so that must have been it. I think it\'s random but you have a much higher chance of getting one if you drop to dark red or gray in that limb/torso. That\'s just from my experience. It took me a while to figure out why my HP was dropping as well.

Batman?	Jan 25, 2009, 8:57 pm
Im not sure if this is the htread for collecting buggy observations as well, but Mortifer seems to be broken in the CVS, I was reccomended by Cruentus and had sacced to get \"Very Pleased\" at a Mort alter, and was extremely chaotic, but he kept zappiong me every time I prayed.

Ischaldirh	Jan 25, 2009, 11:35 pm
Not a bug. Like Valpurus you must be declared Champion before he will give you anything, and then after you pray the timer is several days before you can safely pray again. But boy is it worth it!

Batman?	Jan 26, 2009, 4:32 pm
I thought that is what happens when Cruentus Roccomends me to his master? Plus I got \"champion of the cause\" from cleptia as well. I got the reccomendation from Cruentus, and sacced my way up to very pleased, but still kept getting blasted.

capristo	Jan 26, 2009, 5:05 pm
You thought wrong. Like Atomic said you have to be Mortifer\'s champion. He really loves the crystal skulls that necromancers drop

Ischaldirh	Jan 26, 2009, 9:43 pm
Cruentus\' recommendation just gives you some favor points with Mortifer. Being Cleptia\'s champion might help you with Mortifer as well, but again, you need to be Mortifer\'s champ before he\'ll help you.

slob	Jan 27, 2009, 5:03 am
well unless they changed the god code in the CVS only Cruentus and Infuscor (both C-)will help you curry favor with Mortifer (C--). Praying/offering to Scabies and Nefas (C) will have absolutely no effect (neither good nor bad) and praying to Cleptia (C+) will cause you to lose favor with Mortifer.

Batman?	Jan 27, 2009, 6:15 pm
I havent seen any randomly place landmines in CVS outside of Big room and certain gods alter rooms. Also skeletons all seem to be generated without equipment. also it seems like enners damage is toned down. Is it of any value for me to llist all the things I notice about the CVS? I would hate to be wasting peoples time.

Ernomouse	Jan 27, 2009, 7:15 pm
Well, it\'s never a bad thing to post bugs... But as IVAN hasn\'t seen an official update in three or more years, there is only little chance that anything would happen anyway. And the people are wasting their own time if they read about stuff they don\'t want/need/aren\'t interested in. No-one is obliged to read the yellow topics...

Batman?	Jan 31, 2009, 12:05 pm
Also there seems to be a new stat, what does it do? Eating the holy bananna gives +1 to all stats but the new one, thats probably a bug.

4zb4	Mar 27, 2009, 8:12 am
Willpower... I\'m guessing that\'s your player\'s resistance to spells? That would be hella useful. cursed bloody arsefaced Ishaldric...

chaostrom	Mar 27, 2009, 11:53 am
If I remember aright, Willpower affects your relation with gods. The more Willpower you have, the easier it is to gain favour.

Batman?	Mar 27, 2009, 1:39 pm
I though that was wisdom, which was alreay in the game. Im talking about the new stat in CVS.

Lordmushroom	Aug 29, 2009, 10:02 am
Could it have anything to do with scrolls? Like, scrolls of taming works better if you have loads of willpower or something like that. Also I have been wondering about the Attnam catacombs, is there supposed to be something in the coffin in the bottom floor? It\'s kind of spooky when you open it, but all it does seem to be attracting ghosts?

Bored One	Aug 29, 2009, 7:11 pm
Unfinished dungeon, I\'d say. The coffin doesn\'t even have it\'s own graphic.

4zb4	Aug 30, 2009, 10:06 am
The coffin raises your alignment (+) if you put bottles of vodka into it. I remember my alignment jumping from neutral to mildly lawful after doing that.

chaostrom	Aug 30, 2009, 10:21 am
Actually, it\'s the reverse, I just tested it. Putting bottles of vodka in the coffin makes you more chaotic.

Lordmushroom	Aug 30, 2009, 11:42 am
Thanks, have you tested Valdemar and other liquids too?

chaostrom	Aug 31, 2009, 4:23 am
Actually, it seems to work with anything at all. Here\'s how it changes your god relations per item: L++ goes down 25 L+ goes down 20 L goes down 15 L- goes down 10 N+ goes down 5 N doesn\'t change N- goes up 5 C+ goes up 10 C goes up 15 C- goes up 20 C-- goes up 25

Lordmushroom	Aug 31, 2009, 3:06 pm
What happens if i take them away? ^^ Does it decrease alignment?

chaostrom	Sep 1, 2009, 4:25 am
Upon further testing, the alignment changes each time you change (put or take) the contents of the coffin, not per item.

chaostrom	Sep 2, 2009, 5:32 am
Comrade, we just discussed that... It makes you more chaotic each time you take or put something in the coffin.