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4zb4

Dec 14, 2008, 4:39 am
By "near the start of the game" I mean the first time through the UT.
The best I ever found was the Helmet Of Understanding (AV 24 iirc).

What about you?

chaostrom

Dec 14, 2008, 1:34 pm
Well, I remember finding Vermis. Of course, the reverse also occurs...

capristo

Dec 14, 2008, 3:17 pm

chaostrom wrote


Well, I remember finding Vermis. Of course, the reverse also occurs...



What, Vermis finds you?

Ernomouse

Dec 14, 2008, 6:28 pm
A Turox levitating and moving on it's own in UT1? No thanks!

Unknown_Entity

Dec 14, 2008, 6:32 pm
Vermis, Saal Thuul, Holy banana, scroll of charging, wand of mirroring, and a scroll of change material all in UT. I was killed by a veteran kamikaze dwarf as soon as I entered GC.

Cerumen

Dec 14, 2008, 8:50 pm

Quote


What, Vermis finds you?



I had a "skeleton finds Turox on UT2". Two deaths resulted (yes, I loaded a bone file of that level afterwards).

My best start game item, not counting wishes, would probably be just one of the artifact weapons (Turox usually).

4zb4

Dec 14, 2008, 9:27 pm
Wow. Found a SoCM in UT2 just laying there on the ground. Not even in wizmode!

chaostrom

Dec 15, 2008, 9:45 am

capristo wrote



chaostrom wrote


Well, I remember finding Vermis. Of course, the reverse also occurs...



What, Vermis finds you?



Well capristo, it is a teleporting spear

Nah, I meant finding crappy items, which you woulda known if you followed the link.

Eagle V

Dec 15, 2008, 9:47 am
Found Saal'thul, just next to the first stairs in UT1

chaostrom

Dec 15, 2008, 9:53 am
Very nice Eagle! At least it wasn't a backpack like I once got...

capristo

Dec 15, 2008, 1:22 pm
I know, I was joking

slob

Dec 15, 2008, 5:24 pm
Well my best single find was probably a 4 shot wand of cloning. Much more useful than an artifact weapons which you will undoubtedly find later. You just have to be able to survive long enough to make it useful.

Apple

Dec 15, 2008, 5:27 pm
Four shot wand of cloning?

I thought there was only 1-3 shot ones...

Unknown_Entity

Dec 15, 2008, 7:53 pm
Ive gotten a couple four-shots. they are pretty rare though.

Konork

Dec 15, 2008, 10:27 pm
I remember finding Vermis on I believe UT2, dieing, finding one on UT1, then loading the first as a bones file

Zayre

Dec 16, 2008, 12:34 am
In Fluffy's RoTK Mod, finding Sky Scorcher, already at +4, in UC1.

capristo

Dec 16, 2008, 2:19 am

Zayre wrote


In Fluffy's RoTK Mod, finding Sky Scorcher, already at +4, in UC1.


Dang at first I thought ROTK = Return of the King. That would be way cool to have a Lord of the Rings version of IVAN

4zb4

Dec 16, 2008, 3:21 am

capristo wrote



Zayre wrote


In Fluffy's RoTK Mod, finding Sky Scorcher, already at +4, in UC1.


Dang at first I thought ROTK = Return of the King. That would be way cool to have a Lord of the Rings version of IVAN



If only IVAN had more recent graphics... *sob*

Somagu

Dec 16, 2008, 6:29 am

Zayre wrote


In Fluffy's RoTK Mod, finding Sky Scorcher, already at +4, in UC1.



I believe that would be FMW's mod, not Fluffy's.

capristo

Dec 16, 2008, 6:46 am
I have found a flaming valpurium long sword +10, and learned the hard way while fighting a golem the truth about these weapons....

I guess that was actually one of the worst items I've found.

The best has always been Mjolak. I'm sure I've found it in UT1 a couple times.

Ischaldirh

Dec 16, 2008, 7:43 am
I found (well, received) Neerc se'Ulb on UT2.

chaostrom

Dec 16, 2008, 9:12 am
Hm, I seem to recall finding a meteoric steel chainmail once, that was nice.

slob

Dec 16, 2008, 4:17 pm

Atomic wrote


I found (well, received) Neerc se'Ulb on UT2.



what did you do? eat all of new attnam first? Use the banana peel trick or sulphuric acid to kill people and eat them to become chaotic enough to get Ne'erc Se'Ulb?

Ischaldirh

Dec 16, 2008, 6:39 pm
Nope, I found a Wand of Polymorph and a pick axe in the first couple levels, and an altar to Mortifer near the end of UT2. Then I polypiled and sacrificed almost all the results until Morti was satisfied enough. I was also able to get a second Neerc se'Ulb about halfway through GC.

Cerumen

Dec 16, 2008, 6:58 pm
Well, I got a valpurium shield back by UT2 once, IIRC, so the same should be possible with Mortifer. I found an altar and two books on UT1, and then a third book on UT2. Yays.


Quote


and a pick axe



...in what way was it relevant?

Edit: Ah, the stones. Nvm, I'm stoopid

4zb4

Dec 17, 2008, 9:40 pm
scroll of wishing, UT2!

Cerumen

Dec 19, 2008, 10:55 pm
IVAN 3d, Holy Hand Grenade at the staircase of UT1.

capristo

Feb 15, 2009, 8:07 pm
Wow, not one scroll of charging but two, just on UT1

update: killed by Genetrix hope I can get these bones

JoKe

Feb 16, 2009, 8:29 am
SoCM right next to the stairs...

chaostrom

Feb 16, 2009, 8:30 am
Bah, still doesn\'t beat my backpack + hedgehog in the starting room.

capristo

Feb 16, 2009, 8:54 am
[quote=\"chaostrom\"]Bah, still doesn\'t beat my backpack + hedgehog in the starting room.


What\'s the story on that? I don\'t see it in this thread

chaostrom

Feb 17, 2009, 10:13 am
Well, it\'s an old story, from the jconserv days. You may remember the little story I wrote on the guy with strange luck? It was in part inspired by an incident where, upon entering the UT, I found a backpack. As I picked it up, the door opened, the dog was one-shotted, and I faced the hedgehog who did that.

Ischaldirh

Feb 17, 2009, 11:39 am
Please tell me you used the backpack.

Ernomouse

Feb 17, 2009, 2:30 pm
Is there really any other options? =D Well, REAL options at least.

Cerumen

Feb 18, 2009, 11:45 am
Throw the backpack and kill the hedgehog in one hit! Bang!

Ernomouse

Feb 18, 2009, 12:52 pm
no, no no. (a)pply the backpack?

Cerumen

Feb 18, 2009, 1:13 pm
Sure, I\'m just kidding about other real options. I tested it out and couldn\'t hit a hedgehog with a thrown backpack in 20 attempts. Of course, there still might be a 1% chance of actually killing the hedgehog with a thrown backpack, but you\'d probably fall asleep before even seeing it happen in Wizard Mode.

mistifilio

Feb 28, 2009, 10:02 pm
Just got broken dragon hide armor in the UT1 starting room.

Apple

Mar 1, 2009, 6:57 am
Two holy bananas on UT2.

capristo

Mar 2, 2009, 8:28 am
[quote=\"Apple\"]Two holy bananas on UT2.


Nice!

Kamos

Jun 11, 2009, 5:09 pm
Vermis, helmet of understanding AV 16, some thunder hammer are among mine. Also, on UT1, just walking along happily,

\"The zombie stabs you with his broken rune spear Vermis! You die.\"

BDR

Jun 11, 2009, 7:38 pm
Things I have found in UT:

Arcanite chainmail (found a shrine to Atavus in UT2, read the 2 books there, prayed, received lovely gift)
Octiron quarterstaff
Arcanite quarterstaff
holy banana of Oily Orpiv

That\'s.. all I can remember right now, but I also know I have a bones file on UT3 that contains the remains of at least three characters, none of whom got past Jenny\'s minions after resting from Jenny fighting (or the ghost, in some cases). Lots of loot to be had (including a helmet of understanding, wands galore, and plenty of nice scrolls), but taking it with me will be a hassle.

Kamos

Jun 12, 2009, 6:56 am
Oh, I\'ve also got that banana, and 2 arcanite qstaves so far. I wonder if that banana can be used in other ways - I ate it when I was hungry and noticed my stats were rising, but that was then all.

JoKe

Jun 12, 2009, 8:34 am
The banana can also be [z]apped, which works like a wand of fireballs. It also explodes like a wand of fireballs... Keep it in a chest or a lockbox if you don\'t eat it right away. I never do that though, the stat increase is worth much more in my books than an extra wand.

capristo

Jun 12, 2009, 2:24 pm
I agree with JoKe

chaostrom

Jun 13, 2009, 9:55 am
Haha, shrinking sentence. The Town Crier really knows how to handle his text

4zb4

Jun 14, 2009, 2:42 am
The banana should only be zapped when dealing with Jenny, if you find it that early

Ernomouse

Jun 14, 2009, 4:42 pm
Or a hedgehog. Brr...

Yuzzi

Jul 30, 2009, 8:57 pm
The dragon hide dragon cuirass is a nice thing to find early in LIVAN, it has been my first armor twice.

Comrade

Jul 31, 2009, 2:24 am
If i find a holy banana, should i eat it first or zap it?

BDR

Jul 31, 2009, 2:47 am
Personally, I would eat it before considering it for fireball use. However I don\'t believe it rots, so you could conceivably hang on to it until the enner in case you can\'t find a wand of fireballs or otherwise suitable explosive.

Lordmushroom

Aug 1, 2009, 4:06 pm
I got a wish in UT1 which i used on a helmet of brilliance, and i also found vermis + 1 on a kobold and saal\'thul in UT 2
when i came to GC 1 i had belt of levitation, cloning, vermis, saal\'thul, brilliance and a elite guard

Comrade

Aug 2, 2009, 5:04 am
A lantern...

Z

Aug 3, 2009, 10:58 am
Yes, I have also found a lantern near the start of game. Obtaining a lantern so early makes the game much easier.

Leo

Aug 3, 2009, 11:20 am
I personally prefer flaming swords, when it comes to lighting my path.

capristo

Aug 3, 2009, 2:41 pm
I prefer shiny stones. Especially if you have blue, green, and purple, it makes the light look white.

Comrade

Aug 3, 2009, 5:10 pm
Yes, but once i found 2 lanterns in the begging of the game, it made the game easy times two!

Alveradok

Aug 3, 2009, 7:30 pm
I liked that one game I found an adamantium thunder hammer and an octiron thunder hammer. Because when Loricatus fixed them, I had the best light one can get.

chaostrom

Aug 4, 2009, 5:38 am
Holy shit Al. That\'s nice.

Alveradok

Aug 4, 2009, 3:14 pm
Well, I got to GC11 and Sherry with that character. Well, usually characters with such finds are doing well, since we tend to be more careful with them, hm?

Lordmushroom

Aug 4, 2009, 3:19 pm
hahah right you are! when i die a couple of times i just get really frustrated and tend to get careless..
i just found a room with three lamps in UT 2, two contained a genie who granted me a wish

4zb4

Aug 6, 2009, 6:13 am
I find that every char I get that finds amazing items always finds its end at the hands of either a mine, enner, kamikaze dwarf or mystic dark frog.

Leo

Aug 6, 2009, 9:45 am
Danger system loves taking away even the small victories...

I\'ve never made it past jenny while wielding a flaming sword.

chaostrom

Aug 6, 2009, 11:21 am
Really? Flaming swords make things so much easier due to the unblockable burn damage.

Leo

Aug 6, 2009, 12:27 pm
Jenny eats leather armor for breakfast.

Apple

Aug 25, 2009, 2:00 pm
Just found a wand of cloning in UT1. Unsuprisingly, as soon as I got to GC, a land mine blew me to bits.

kylewalsh123

Aug 25, 2009, 6:09 pm
I found an Amulet of ESP in the starting room today. Not an amazing item, but it sure was helpful. Notice the past tense there.

capristo

Aug 25, 2009, 7:19 pm
lol it always seems to work that way Apple and kyle. I love having ESP and high Perception

Sylverone

Aug 28, 2009, 6:13 am
I\'ve not been playing IVAN that long (in terms of actual game play - maybe someone remembers my few posts a little over a year ago?).

In the very beginning of UT1, I found an Ommel Tooth Armor +1 or 2 with an AV of 26 as I remember it.

Wearing it had a heavy penalty (-3, I believe) to both DEX and AGI, but it gave a several point bonus to END. I was so sad when that character kicked the bucket...

Hopefully I\'ll get a bones file sometime. If I do, I\'ll give you the exact stats of this armor, since I could be slightly wrong.

kylewalsh123

Aug 29, 2009, 12:16 am
I just found a leather whip +5 in UT 1 sitting on top of a zombie that I didn\'t kill.

o.o

Edit: Found vermis just down the hall. xD

Ernomouse

Aug 30, 2009, 11:58 am
And Rondol in the tunnel leading to UT2 stairs?

martys1103

Aug 30, 2009, 12:10 pm
i once had adamant long sword +3 from praying at UT2

died from praying too much to Sophos and then to ... umm i dont remember but he( she) sent angel to kill me while i was without limbs

chaostrom

Aug 31, 2009, 3:48 am
Wow, an adamantine long sword +3. From Loricatus, I presume?

Lordmushroom

Aug 31, 2009, 2:57 pm
You can get an adamintine long sword from Loricatus?

chaostrom

Sep 1, 2009, 4:20 am
I dunno, that\'s why I\'m asking.

TIkiTakman

Sep 5, 2009, 3:25 am
I once found a whip of thievery just outside the starting room.

Comrade

Sep 5, 2009, 3:45 am
I found a human body, but it was mine...

Cerumen

Sep 5, 2009, 1:32 pm
That\'s what is called a bones level

But hey, if it had good equipment, it could probably count. As for me, I remember finding a broken Mjolak and a helmet of brilliance in the UT. Seriously, one item I would love to find at the beginning of the game would be a strongbox...

Comrade

Sep 5, 2009, 4:36 pm
No, it was my dead body ^_^

BDR

Sep 6, 2009, 4:57 am
Did this dead body perchance occur on the same level as a ghost? If so then it is indeed a bones level.

I think I\'ll go out on a limb and suggest a more appropriate smiley for you: image

Ischaldirh

Sep 6, 2009, 7:09 am
I\'m going to go out on a limb myself and suggest that perhaps he\'s referring to \"finding\" his own dead body. As in he died early in the game.

BDR

Sep 6, 2009, 7:04 pm
Ehhhhhhhh, possible, but a strange interpretation.

4zb4

Sep 7, 2009, 5:57 am
You never can tell with Comrade...

Comrade

Sep 7, 2009, 3:01 pm
[quote=\"Ischaldirh\";12764]I\'m going to go out on a limb myself and suggest that perhaps he\'s referring to \"finding\" his own dead body. As in he died early in the game.


FTW
[quote=\"4zb4\";12797]You never can tell with Comrade...


Why is that?

TIkiTakman

Sep 8, 2009, 5:20 am
Whoa.I just found Saal\' Thul and a whip of thievery right next to each other. In UT1

EDIT: And now dragon hide armor on UT2
DOUBLE EDIT:And an amulet of life saving in UT5!!(IVANT)

BDR

Sep 8, 2009, 5:57 am
Sherry is probably waiting for you in GC.

capristo

Sep 8, 2009, 6:39 am
haha yeah. Those are some nice finds though

TIkiTakman

Sep 12, 2009, 3:06 am
Well, the character\'s dead.
He got an arm severed by a bear in GC6 (IVANT, so I hadn\'t passed enner yet.) , tried praying to a god to get it back, and for some reason they really hated him and polymorphed him into a large rat.He was then overloaded, had to drop heaps of stuff as a skeleton moved towards him, and had just got to stressed when the skeleton got there and one shotted him.
The really annoying thing was I had actually found ANOTHER amulet of life saving. but since rats can\'t use equipment, they were both useless.
Ah well, I guess that\'s what you get for playing IVAN.

Comrade

Sep 12, 2009, 3:13 am
That has happend to me so many times... I feel your pain...

Ischaldirh

Sep 12, 2009, 3:49 am
I\'m guessing you prayed to Silva. Out of curiosity do you understand how the god system works?

chaostrom

Sep 12, 2009, 8:34 am
I\'m thinking he prayed to Scabies, actually. The bitch once turned me into a rat because she was pleased. Pleased.

BDR

Sep 12, 2009, 4:28 pm
Such a change would make sense if there were wererats, or dire rats. As there are not, at best it would be a sign she likes you, but not enough to not play dangerously with you.

Stihdjia

Oct 12, 2009, 6:25 am
Permanent levitation from the first fountain I saw! And I only had to try once. Unfortunately, this makes it nearly impossible to replace limbs.

capristo

Oct 12, 2009, 6:35 am
permanent?
anyways its better to change and harden limbs on your own... you never know what the gods will give you

BDR

Oct 12, 2009, 2:27 pm
Permanent levitation? Sounds good to me, maybe you should just stick with natural limbs.

Somagu

Oct 12, 2009, 9:20 pm
Yes, Cap, permanent, I think we may have just covered it on JConserv but it was in fact determined that once the duration of an effect reaches a certain number, it rolls back over and will not ever wear out.

Alveradok

Oct 12, 2009, 9:59 pm
I think it\'s not the point now, Somagu

Permanent levitation, haste, polycontrol etc. from fountains is a completely different effect. Ever notice that in these rare occurences the message isn\'t \"this wates tastes normal, but there is ann odd after taste\"? It\'s This water tastes very odd. Now THAT message usually indicates You just got a hundred times more lucky than with a temp effect.

HOWEVER, if one would for example have ESP from eating a floating eye, and would happen to drink from a fountain and hit the \"temporary ESP effect\" a couple of times, it COULD become permanent. Then it\'s the same as when zapping ~40 wands of haste one oneself.

chaostrom

Oct 13, 2009, 1:16 am
It was actually greatboards, Somagu. Here:

http://ivan.greatboard.com/viewtopic.php?t=846

Ischaldirh

Oct 13, 2009, 7:09 am
Alvers: Temporary effects can be distinguished from permanent effects by text color, I think. Or does that only distinguish inherent from equipment-granted abilities? God I haven\'t played IVAN in way too long.

Eagle V

Oct 13, 2009, 7:29 am
Permanent, whether trough equipement or state, is blue, I think.

Alveradok

Oct 13, 2009, 11:57 am
Yes, they are blue in color. That\'s how I distinguished which fountain message grants perma, after all ;d

Arturion

Oct 13, 2009, 7:59 pm
Not a single item, but I just found this chest in GC1 (it wasn\'t a bones file, and was a regular playthrough, not wizard mode)...


EDIT: Spoke too soon, I suppose. All of the items, including the chest, disappeared over the next few minutes of play.

BDR

Oct 13, 2009, 10:04 pm
They... disappeared? But that would mean there was either a teleporting mage on your level or they were mirrored, wouldn\'t it?

chaostrom

Oct 13, 2009, 10:07 pm
Some chests are spawned as mirrors. If the loot is extraordinary, suspect it.

BDR

Oct 14, 2009, 3:39 am
I had no idea that could happen. I thought something bizarre like a monster zapping a wand of mirror had happened or something.

Arturion

Oct 14, 2009, 3:59 am
[quote=\"chaostrom\";13662]Some chests are spawned as mirrors. If the loot is extraordinary, suspect it.



Yeah, seems like this. I\'ve never seen it before today, though.

Too bad, I wanted that stuff.

capristo

Oct 14, 2009, 7:03 am
[quote=\"BDR\";13668]I had no idea that could happen.


Me neither! I\'ve found a flaming valpurium long sword +10 that was a mirror, but damn, a whole chest full of goodies is cruel!

4zb4

Oct 14, 2009, 7:26 am
[quote=\"capristo\";13684]Me neither! I\'ve found a flaming valpurium long sword +10 that was a mirror, but damn, a whole chest full of goodies is cruel!


Not if you can use it in time. Especially if you come across one when you\'re fighting a named monster.

JimmyJ

Oct 14, 2009, 11:22 pm
They aren\'t blue if you get them from eating a lot of mushrooms or drinking lots of fountain water though.

Arturion

Oct 15, 2009, 12:45 am
[quote=\"JimmyJ\";13690]They aren\'t blue if you get them from eating a lot of mushrooms or drinking lots of fountain water though.



Not immediately. Basically (if I remember this correctly), 65535 is the threshold for a permanent state. If a fountain or mushroom (or anything else) bumps you above that threshold, the stat still stays white until, over time, the value drops back down to 65535. It then stops, the game recognizes it as a permanent state, and the name goes blue.

chaostrom

Oct 15, 2009, 4:09 am
[quote=\"BDR\";13668]I thought something bizarre like a monster zapping a wand of mirror had happened or something.


Monsters don\'t touch wands. If I\'m carrying a buttload of wands and I need to lighten my load, I drop all but the essential wands first (unless I come across an extra chest to stash \'em in). It\'s an unnecessary risk.

BDR

Oct 15, 2009, 5:19 am
Well, as I said I had no idea mirror equipment could spawn. Seriously never found anything like that in my IVAN experience (so when equipment disappearing was mentioned I was like \"what??\" ).

4zb4

Oct 17, 2009, 11:12 am
A hattifattener could have zapped and broken a wand of mirroring... Or a mine or dwarf exploding on one. All while a nice chest was nearby. And it could also asplode a tele wand and port one chest away.

Arturion

Oct 17, 2009, 4:22 pm
[quote=\"4zb4\";13716]A hattifattener could have zapped and broken a wand of mirroring... Or a mine or dwarf exploding on one. All while a nice chest was nearby. And it could also asplode a tele wand and port one chest away.



That\'s almost equally unlikely - and no, I scoured the level for anything else (wondering if there was a dark mage or something teleporting my stuff away - I\'ve had a chameleon turn into one before!). The items just disappeared, and there were no other copies.

Ischaldirh

Oct 18, 2009, 3:00 am
Aside from which I don\'t believe lightning will break objects on the ground -- much as acid rain won\'t melt things laying on the ground.

chaostrom

Oct 18, 2009, 3:05 am
Mirror chests are rare. You are more likely to find a hidden chest in which some of its contents are mirrors.

TIkiTakman

Feb 8, 2010, 6:10 am
In LIVAN, I just found the holy banana of Oily Orpiv in UT2. I could tell there was something from ages away because of the very intense light that it gives off
EDIT: I also just found a helmet of attractivity +5 and Aegis in GC1 =)

Battleguy

Feb 8, 2010, 9:20 am
Nice finds.

capristo

Feb 8, 2010, 9:28 am
attractivity is useless What\'s Aegis?

Battleguy

Feb 8, 2010, 9:30 am
Attractivity is useless? That sucks... give it a use.

Alveradok

Feb 8, 2010, 2:27 pm
15 in attractivity makes You able to talk to Decos! That\'s as much as 2 Int and a Wis!

TIkiTakman

Feb 8, 2010, 5:33 pm
[quote=\"capristo\";14981]attractivity is useless What\'s Aegis?


The full title is The holy shield of Aegis or something

BDR

Feb 8, 2010, 8:12 pm
Until I checked I didn\'t realize just *how* bad attractivity was compared to other helmets. Strangeish as you\'d think it being special it would at least beat a full bronze helmet in AV value, but a +5 helmet of attractivity just sitting in the dungeon would still be rather handy in the early game as it has the same AV as a full steel helmet.

EDIT: It also hardens to diamond, which for a +5 attractivity helmet would make 27 AV (beats the full adamantine helmet by 1 AV). Unless you find a scroll of change material first, you\'ll want to keep that helmet.

E2: No, you can\'t harden understanding or perception helmets. Brilliance hardens to octiron and gets 20+(enchantment value) AV.

capristo

Feb 8, 2010, 8:33 pm
[quote=\"Alveradok\";14984]15 in attractivity makes You able to talk to Decos! That\'s as much as 2 Int and a Wis!


Good point. I was thinking of deals in the shops, but I forgot about the requirement for Decos.

Ischaldirh

Feb 8, 2010, 10:14 pm
Helm of Attractivity = made of gold
Helm of Piercing Perception = made of illithium (?)
Helm of Understanding = made of unicorn horn (?)

I can\'t recall exactly actually. One of the two (perception / understanding) is unicorn horn, but I actually forget what the other is made of.

BDR

Feb 9, 2010, 12:06 am
Understanding is indeed unicorn horn. Brilliance is made of arcanite.

Ischaldirh

Feb 9, 2010, 3:45 am
Riiight, Arcanite. Which is a good thing because while gold will harden to diamond at around 40 INT, arcanite will harden to mithril at only 25 (30? god, it\'s been too long since I played IVAN), and can be further hardened to octiron.

BDR

Feb 9, 2010, 4:43 am
Which would be nicer if a) mithril gave more than an extra 2 AV and b) octiron didn\'t require the same amount of Int to harden to (according to the wiki) as diamond does (and since diamond helmets give 6 more AV than the octiron helmets, generally speaking a more useful use of harden material). A scroll of change material and the right amount of Int will make all that a moot point o\'course.

Ischaldirh

Feb 9, 2010, 7:41 am
You\'re also forgetting the stat that is increased. A helm of brilliance +5 can become octiron 5 INT earlier than a helm of attractivity +5 (assuming you don\'t have both).

Stihdjia

Feb 10, 2010, 10:33 pm
Here\'s my full set as I walked into Attnam. Luckily a pet took care of the skeletons carrying those axes, I\'m sure I would have been one-shotted. They ended up being my weapons for quite a while.

BDR

Feb 11, 2010, 12:29 am
It\'s a shame there aren\'t any axe artifacts in vanilla IVAN.

chaostrom

Feb 11, 2010, 9:29 am
Is that a screenshot from 0.50 though? The default weapon for a skeleton is a bronze axe -2 (with slight variations). Those enchantments are almost preposterous.

Alveradok

Feb 11, 2010, 11:24 am
Can be. Later in the game it\'s the same as in the case of veteran dark knights in +9 iron armor.

Stihdjia

Feb 11, 2010, 8:45 pm
Yes, it is regular 0.50. My only guess as to why they were enchanted so high, is because I had a pack of wolves following me from a fountain and an angel... I didn\'t have Atavus\'s armor yet. Actually, I don\'t think I had any body armor at all.

capristo

Jun 6, 2010, 9:06 pm
Not exactly near the start of the game (I\'m down to GC4 now) but I\'ve found THREE Oily Orpivs so far
Needless to say that raised my danger level higher than I desired at first but by now most of my equipment has balanced that out. Agility is also very low

Lordmushroom

Jun 7, 2010, 11:04 am
Hmm, how much danger does Oily Orpivs actually mean? Is it far beyond armors/weapons?

capristo

Jun 7, 2010, 2:44 pm
I mean because of the 3 endurance boosts.

Lordmushroom

Jul 3, 2010, 7:20 pm
Hahahah, oh god this is great. I start out with 13 arm + leg str 11 dex and agi. I then find, in the starting room, Saal\'thul. After that a wand of polymorph, and then a kobold with a ring of teleport control and an amulet of esp.
Still haven\'t explored more than a third of UT 1.

Edit: still in UT 1: scroll of change material... and carrot.
Edit 2: UT 2, wand of cloning, rapier named Lynslag.
Edit 3: Ommel Urine. Yay!

ninjaspud

Jul 3, 2010, 9:10 pm
[quote=\"Lordmushroom\";15980]amulet of psp.


were can i buy that, i wanna play ivan on psp

BDR

Jul 4, 2010, 2:07 am
...if you want IVAN on PSP, make it yourself. Or, you know, find a bunch of coders and pay them to make a port. Whinging about it not existing will not make it happen.

Edit: I feel like being helpful so here is a link to the PSP-compatible DOSBox and also one to a place where the DOS port of IVAN can be found just under the Windows port binary. JimmyJ mentioned this in your poll but maybe you forgot or missed it so here is a workaround just for you.

Lordmushroom

Jul 4, 2010, 7:56 pm
Heh, BDR I actually wrote amulet of psp, then i edited it. So there was grounds for commenting ^^

BDR

Jul 5, 2010, 2:44 am
The bit where he sort of played like the mistype was real wasn\'t where my objection lay; it was the bit where it was less of a joke about it and more of a whiny \"why is there no IVAN on PSP gawd I want it so bad\" style post that I objected to, as he\'s already made one topic about it and was given a means to have it available to him that way (plus, I\'m also annoyed because he dashed my dreams of having someone around who might do *something* new with IVAN, even if it was more or less useless to me).

Zulox

Jul 5, 2010, 3:05 am
Well, not exacly found, but I\'ve got my hands on two-handed valpurium sword before reaching UT3. As well as Angel Hair armor +1 and some lame mithril arms from angels. But that was thanks to finding 2 HHG.

Hikalian

Jul 25, 2010, 2:52 pm
Eh, in the first floor of the Tunnels, I had gotten my hands on one of those Thieving Girdle deals, +2, then ran into a ommel cerumen golem, which was barely any ommel at all. But hey, the 1 Intelligence and Wisdom was nice. Ended up with mostly leather gear and mithril daggers by the time I got to Genetrix, but.. got unlucky, got bit in the head by a greater plant, and.. you guys know the rest.

Repulsion

Aug 4, 2010, 1:34 pm
Hmm, I\'d have to say Saal\'thul +3 and a Helmet of Piercing Perception +2. It was my first time on GC2 on that run, but I died after a veteran kamikaze dwarf got me.

Waspys

Jan 11, 2011, 5:04 pm
some exploding weapon that destroyed me 5 minutes later...

Alveradok

Jan 11, 2011, 6:46 pm
Welcome to the magical world of IVAN, Waspys!

If I heard the sentence your said in the street, at the mall or over the phone, IVAN is the only possible thought that springs.

4zb4

Jan 11, 2011, 11:57 pm
Turox is not the nicest weapon to use at the start of the game

Also, I\'ve been finding a curious amount of holy hand grenades in UT in a few of my recent games.

capristo

Jan 24, 2011, 8:38 pm
Just had one who found Turox, Vermis, and a cloak of invisibility (torn and then repaired) all in UT 1-2

chaostrom

Jan 25, 2011, 12:19 am
Yesterday I had a game where I got a scroll of wishing and a wand of mirroring (amongst other things) before getting to UT3. Unfortunately UT2 was also infested with MMs, and a werewolf got him.

capristo

Feb 9, 2011, 9:38 pm
Wow. TWO scrolls of charging, 1 SOCM, 1 wand of mirroring, 1 thunder hammer, a horn of bravery, and a dragon hide cloak of fire resistance. All in UT 2.

And a meteoric steel chain mail, boots of agility, gauntlets of strength (neither pair was broken), and a pre-enchanted nymph hair whip +2

To top it all off, in UT3 I ran into a Bones file. Not the best items, but there was another scroll of charging.

Zulox

Feb 9, 2011, 10:47 pm
Start playing loteries or go to casino Capri, just hurry up while it still works

capristo

Feb 10, 2011, 1:48 am
Noooooo!!! The same character was up to 35 Dex without any training, had dual whips of thievery +12, still had 2 scrolls of charging and a wand of cloning with 3 charges. Was kicking ass but only had 54 HP and died instantly from a hattifattener\'s lightning bolt And he\'s in UT2, there\'s no way I\'ll ever come across his bones.

chaostrom

Feb 10, 2011, 3:27 am
Did he, in fact, leave a bones?

BDR

Feb 10, 2011, 1:05 pm
UT1 is the no-bones zone, not UT2. I\'ve had a fair number of UT2 bones levels in my game, so have no fear about not getting access to the stuff again!

capristo

Feb 10, 2011, 3:34 pm
Well, if I ever did come across his Bones, there\'s no way I\'d be powerful enough that early in the game to kill his ghost.

BDR

Feb 10, 2011, 5:04 pm
Wands of lightning, perhaps? Or wands of striking/polymorph (on you, not the ghost).

Warheck

Oct 7, 2011, 9:55 pm
I can't remember where the worst item list is, but this fella was carrying a very unfortunate weapon:

chaostrom

Oct 8, 2011, 7:59 am
It's the crazy finds thread. It was originally meant to be for both the best and worst, but perhaps I should just rename it since we have this for best items and nobody can find the other one.

Warheck

Oct 28, 2011, 10:54 am
So where do I find the severed groin of a mistress whip champion?

Ernomouse

Oct 28, 2011, 11:28 am
=D I think only zombies can drop groins, unfortunately.

4zb4

Oct 28, 2011, 12:17 pm
Yes I believe so. Something to do with their body parts rotting if memory serves.

Ischaldirh

Oct 28, 2011, 2:57 pm
Nice find. I've been trying to make that happen for years.